ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT
Date: June 23, 1999
Author/Local: Jim Hall/7130
RTS No. 265
CC File No. 5757
T&T Date: July 6, 1999
TO: Standing Committee of Transportation and Traffic FROM: General Manager of Engineering Services SUBJECT: North-East Kitsilano Traffic Calming Plan RECOMMENDATION
A. THAT the North-East Kitsilano traffic calming plan be approved, as detailed in this report.
B. THAT funding of $210,000 for the implementation of the traffic calming plan be provided from Streets Capital Unappropriated Account 30000326, Neighbourhood Traffic Calming Plans.
C. THAT the annual maintenance budget be increased by $1,500, without offset, for the maintenance of the new traffic calming measures in the neighbourhood.
D. THAT following a trial period of about six months after installation, traffic counts be taken, residents within the North-East Kitsilano area be surveyed and the results reported back to Council.
E. THAT the designation of the residential section of Cypress Street between 4th and 1st be changed from a collector to a local, residential street.
F. THAT staff, in consultation with North-East Kitsilano residents and 4th Avenue merchants, evaluate the possibilities for facilitating the eastbound to northbound left-turn movement at the Burrard and 4th intersection, for report back to Council.
G. THAT staff, in consultation with the Kits Point residents, evaluate the impact on Chestnut Street, north of Cornwall, due to the left-turn bay at Burrard and Cornwall once the traffic calming measures on Cypress Street are implemented and report back to Council on traffic calming measures, if required.
COUNCIL POLICY
The Transportation Plan provides that the traffic calming program should give priority to streets and neighbourhoods where the traffic impacts are most serious.
PURPOSE
The purpose of this report is to seek Council approval for a neighbourhood traffic calming plan for the North-East Kitsilano neighbourhood.
BACKGROUND
The 1977 Kitsilano Apartment Area Plan identified Cypress Street between 4th and Kits Point as a collector street. This was intended to provide access to Kits Point from the south. In 1997, Vancouver City Council approved a left-turn bay at Burrard and Cornwall and a left-turn signal at Burrard and 1st to deal in part with traffic shortcutting on Cypress Street between 4th and Cornwall and to provide residents of Kits Point access from the south to their neighbourhood on arterial streets rather than residential streets. Council further recommended:
THAT following a decision on the proposals herein (i.e. left turn bay), the area be resurveyed to determine the need for further measures to reduce traffic on Cypress Street, for report back to Committee.
FURTHER THAT staff continue to consult with Cypress Street residents in this process.PUBLIC CONSULTATION
Staff have been working closely with residents of the North-East Kitsilano Neighbourhood Association (NEKNA). In November 1998, there was an Open House to discuss traffic calming issues in the neighbourhood and to strike a Design Group to develop a traffic calming plan. An Open House was held in April, 1999 at which the Design Group presentedtheir Plan. At this meeting suggestions were made to improve the Plan and the Plan was modified accordingly. NEKNA has distributed two newsletters to the neighbourhood to provide information on the process for developing a traffic calming plan. Appendix A provides more details on the process.
NORTH-EAST KITSILANO TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN
This plan proposes that the "collector" designation be removed from Cypress Street south of 1st Avenue. To enforce this proposal, a traffic calming plan was developed by the neighbourhood in consultation with City staff. The intent of the plan is to reduce commuter shortcutting, and to ensure pedestrian, cyclist and motorist safety while maintaining ease of access and parking for local residents. The plan addresses these goals and concerns through the use of four principal measures: corner and mid-block bulges, bicycle mid-block bulges, parking changes, and left-turn restrictions. North-south stop signs are also proposed for Maple at York. Details of the plan are contained in Appendix B, the survey that was distributed to the neighbourhood.
SURVEYThe proposed traffic calming plan was submitted to the North-East Kitsilano neighbourhood as a mail-back survey (see Appendix B), to measure neighbourhood acceptance of the plan. An information pamphlet (see Appendix C) was also sent to Kits Point residents who were encouraged to phone in comments to City staff.
The results of the survey are:
1) for the North-East Kitsilano neighbourhood:
- surveys distributed = 2,118
- surveys returned = 190 a 9% response rate
- of those responding, 78% were in favour of the plan, 17% were opposed and 5% were neutral
- thus, of those responses that indicated an opinion, 82% were in favour and 18% were opposed.2) from the Kits Point neighbourhood, City staff received two calls commenting on the plan, generally in favour.
Comments from the survey are found in Appendix D. Many of the suggestions (eg. use traffic circles or more stop signs) were discussed during the design process. It is concluded that the plan as designed and presented to the neighbourhood should proceed as is. Suggestions for further changes can be reviewed with experience with the plan.
To conclude, the North-East Kitsilano neighbourhood supports this traffic calming plan. Kits Point residents did not object to the plan.
IMPLEMENTATION
The proposed traffic calming plan includes a new traffic measure, the mid-block bicycle bulge, which provides for traffic calming and bicycle access on Cypress Street, an important bicycle route. These bulges would reduce the pavement to one lane width, and require that opposing traffic alternate through the narrowing. Because this is a new calming measure, it is recommended that following a trial period of about six months after installation, traffic counts be taken, residents within the North-East Kitsilano area be surveyed and the results reported back to Council.
LEFT-TURNS AT BURRARD AND 4TH AVENUE
Concern has been raised that motorists are short-cutting through the neighbourhood because during the afternoon peak period the eastbound to northbound turning movement at the Burrard and 4th intersection is restricted. It is therefore recommended that staff, in consultation with North-East Kitsilano residents and 4th Avenue merchants, evaluate the possibilities for facilitating the eastbound to northbound left-turn movement at the Burrard and 4th intersection, for report back to Council.
KITS POINT CONCERNS
At the Open House, representatives from Kits Point expressed concern about the potential traffic impacts on Chestnut Street, north of Cornwall due to the new left-turn bay at Burrard and Cornwall. The full impact of the left-turn bay cannot be evaluated until the traffic calming on Cypress Street is completed. Out of habit, some drivers still use Cypress Street rather than the new left-turn bay and will continue to do so until physical calming measures are installed on Cyprerss Street. To address these concerns, it is recommended that staff, in consultation with the Kits Point residents, evaluate the traffic impact on Chestnut Street (north of Cornwall) due to the left-turn bay at Burrard and Cornwall once the traffic calming measures on Cypress Street are implemented and report back to Council on traffic calming measures, if required.
FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS
The cost for the traffic calming measures in this plan is estimated at $210,000. These funds are available from Streets Capital Unappropriated Account 30000326, Neighbourhood Traffic Calming Plans. In addition, the annual maintenance budget should be increased by $1,500, without offset, for the maintenance of these new traffic calming measures.
CONCLUSION
The North-East Kitsilano traffic calming plan is supported by the neighbourhood and Council approval of the plan is recommended.
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APPENDIX A
PROCESS for the NORTH EAST KITSILANO TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN
The following outlines the joint process involving NEKNA and the Neighbourhood Transportation Department:
- a neighbourhood transportation engineer was identified to work with NEKNA members - initially Mr. Jody Andrews, then Mr Jim Hall
- NEKNA members and neighbourhood transportation engineer meet to develop a draft time line - June 1998 to June 1999
- traffic data collected on neighbourhood streets before completion on September 23,1998 of Burrard / Cornwall connection (June 1998)
- design group formed of NEKNA members to develop specifics of the plan - plan reviewed /revised in regular meetings with NEKNA and Mr. Hall (15 meetings in total)
- first Open House of the draft plan for the neighbourhood at large held on November 24,1998 @ SPEC building
- traffic data collected 6 months after completion of Burrard / Cornwall connection (March 1999)
- survey regarding the traffic calming plan developed and distributed the week of June 6,1999 to the North East Kitsilano Neighbourhood (total of 2000+ surveys distributed)
- second Open House for the neighbourhood at large held on June 15,1999 @ Henry Hudson School
- survey results/comments and feedback from Open House incorporated into a written report to City Council
- joint presentation of Traffic Calming Plan to City Council by NEKNA & Neighbourhood Transportation Department on July 6,1999
Appendix B-City of Vancouver Survey
North East Kitsilano
Traffic Calming Plan
City of Vancouver June 1999
Dear Neighbour:
This survey seeks your opinion about a traffic
calming plan for your neighbourhood. Traffic calming involves slowing the speed or
reducing the volume of vehicular traffic on neighbourhood streets to increase safety and
livability in the neighbourhood.
In 1997, Vancouver City Council approved a left-turn
bay at Burrard and Cornwall and a left-turn signal at Burrard and 1st to deal in part with
traffic shortcutting on Cypress Street between 4th and Cornwall. Council recommended that
once these improvements were made to the arterial network, the neighbourhood be resurveyed
to determine the need for further measures to reduce traffic in the area and specifically
on Cypress Street which has a relatively high volume of traffic.
Traffic surveys by City staff and consultation between City staff and the North-East Kitsilano Neighbourhood Association (NEKNA) identified four main areas of concern: traffic volumes, traffic speeds, pedestrian and cyclist safety. Out of this consultation, a plan has been developed that includes several traffic calming measures within the neighbourhood bounded by Arbutus, Burrard, Cornwall and 4th. The intent of this proposal is to reduce commuter shortcutting, and to ensure pedestrian, cyclist and motorist safety while maintaining ease of access and parking for local residents.
The attached proposal (see Figure 1) addresses these goals and concerns through the use of four principal measures: corner and mid-block bulges, bicycle mid-block bulges, parking changes, and left-turn restrictions. North-south stop signs are also proposed for Maple at York. An explanation of these measures, as used in the neighbourhood plan is found below.
Corner and Mid-Block Bulges
A corner or mid-block bulge is a horizontal
extension of the curb into the roadway resulting in a narrower section of roadway. The
curb is extended on one or both sides of the roadway to reduce its width to six metres for
two-way traffic. The purpose of the bulge is to:
- reduce vehicle speeds;
- reduce crossing distance for pedestrians;
- increase pedestrian visibility;
- prevent parking close to an intersection; and
- improve the environment - when landscaped, can
improve the appearance of a street.
Proposed locations of the eight corner bulges are:
- York, 2nd and 3rd Avenues, east of Arbutus Street;
- Maple Street at York and at lane north of 4th
Avenue; and
- York, 1st and 2nd Avenues, west of Cypress Street.
Proposed locations for mid-block bulges are:
- on 2nd and 3rd Avenues, west of Burrard Street at the boundary between the commercial and residential properties.
Left-Turn Restrictions
Left-turn restrictions in the afternoon rush period
will limit turns off Burrard Street at 2nd and 3rd Avenues. This measure will encourage
rush-hour commuters to remain on Burrard Street and reduce shortcutting through the
neighbourhood. It was agreed that the new left-turn at Cornwall, the upgraded signal at
1st Avenue and the left-turn at 4th Avenue provide sufficient turning opportunities.
MEASURES SPECIFIC TO CYPRESS STREET
As traffic volumes and speeds on Cypress Street were identified as a special concern (3,000-10,000 vehicles per day), especially given this street's designation as a cycling route and residential street, two additional traffic calming measures are proposed on this street.
Bicycle mid-block bulges
Bicycle mid-block bulges are similar to the other
mid-block bulges except they extend further into the street to allow only one lane of
traffic. When vehicles travelling in opposite directions meet at the bulge, one vehicle
must yield. This is similar to many of the local streets that have mid-block parking such
that only one vehicle can drive through at a time. The bulge is designed so that cyclists
can ride directly through the bulge and not have to wait for oncoming traffic.
There are three mid-block bicycle bulges between 1st and 4th. At the bulge between 1st and 2nd, southbound traffic yields to oncoming traffic. At the other bulges (between 2nd and 3rd and between 3rd and 4th), the northbound traffic yields to oncoming traffic. The bicycle bulges are used only on the Cypress bicycle route and are used to reduce traffic speeds, volumes and ensure bicycle safety.
Parking Changes
The existing parking on Cypress Street is all on the
east side. This provides a wide-open roadway from 4th to 1st Avenues, encourages
shortcutting through the neighbourhood and encourages increased speeds. By alternating the
parking every half-block, gentle curves are introduced to the street and the view down the
roadway is broken-up (as is currently used on Arbutus Street). It is also proposed that
some of the afternoon rush period parking be restored on the north side of 4th Avenue,
east of Cypress. This will discourage, but not restrict, turns onto Cypress Street.
The cost for these traffic calming measures is funded by the City's capital budget and will not increase your taxes.
There will be an Open House in the gymnasium at Henry Hudson Elementary School (1551 Cypress Street) on June 15, 1999 from 7-9 pm. Please come to meet City staff and your neighbours who have developed this proposal for your neighbourhood. They will be pleased to answer any of your questions.
If the results of the enclosed survey indicate that the neighbourhood supports this Plan, the Plan will be presented to Vancouver City Council for approval. Your response to the survey is important.
Please detach the reply card along the perforation and mail. If you wish to expand on your comments, please fax them to 871-6192, e-mail jim_hall@city.vancouver.bc.ca or mail to Neighbourhood Transportation, Engineering Services, City Hall, 453 West 12th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 1V4. All responses will remain confidential. If you have any questions, call Jim Hall at 873-7130 or e-mail jim_hall@city.vancouver.bc.ca
Joey Moore Jim Hall, P.Eng.
North-East Kitsilano Neighbourhood Neighbourhood
Transportation Engineer
Association (NEKNA) City of Vancouver
OPEN HOUSE
June 15, 1999
Gymnasium
Henry Hudson Elementary School
1551 Cypress Street
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Appendix C - City of Vancouver
North East Kitsilano
Traffic Calming Plan
City of Vancouver June 1999
Dear Kits Point Neighbour,
A traffic calming plan has been proposed for the neighbourhood bounded by Arbutus, Burrard, Cornwall and 4th. Traffic calming involves slowing the speed or reducing the volume of vehicular traffic on neighbourhood streets to increase safety and livability in the neighbourhood.
The Kitsilano Apartment Plan of 1977 and the Kitsilano Traffic, Cycling & Parking Plan of 1992 designated Cypress Street between 4th and Kits Point as a collector street. This was intended to provide access to Kits Point from the south. In 1997, Vancouver City Council approved a left-turn bay at Burrard and Cornwall and a left-turn signal at Burrard and 1st to deal in part with traffic shortcutting on Cypress Street between 4th and Cornwall and to provide residents of Kits Point access to their neighbourhood on arterial streets rather than residential streets. In the past, you may have used Cypress Street to access Kits Point from the south; however, you are now being encouraged to stay on the arterial streets and use the new left-turn bay to access your neighbourhood.
Through consultation between City of Vancouver staff and the North-East Kitsilano Neighbourhood Association (NEKNA), a plan has been proposed that includes several traffic calming measures within the neighbourhood bounded by Arbutus, Burrard, Cornwall and 4th (see back). There are three mid-block bulges on Cypress Street between 1st and 4th. These bulges are similar to the other mid-block bulges except they extend further into the street to allow only one lane of traffic. When vehicles travelling in opposite directions meet at the bulge, one vehicle must yield. This is similar to many of the local streets that have mid-block parking such that only one vehicle can drive through at a time. The bulge is designed so that cyclists can ride directly through the bulge and not have to wait for oncoming traffic.
If you have any questions or concerns, come to
an Open House in the gymnasium at Henry Hudson Elementary School (1551 Cypress Street) on
June 15, 1999 from 7-9 pm.
You
may also contact Jim Hall of the City of Vancouver at 873-7130 or e-mail
jim_hall@city.vancouver.bc.ca with any concerns, questions or opinions on how this might
impact you.
APPENDIX D
A. COMMENTS FROM THOSE SUPPORTING THE PLAN
1) Anything to cut down the traffic flow through our Residential Neighbourhood. However, I live on the north side of 3rd between Cypress & Maple and since 4th has become so busy much more traffic is using 3rd as the main street. When heading east most vehicles increase speed from Arbutus as the slope is downhill and the next stop sign isn't until Cypress. Can we please get Traffic Circles at the intersections. As I write this a vehicle zooms by approximately every 3 minutes and it is 8:45 p.m. Something certainly has to be done. The sooner the better.
2) It sounds excellent. As a cyclist, I'm thrilled.
3) Good idea. The traffic along W. 2nd between Burrard and Cypress has become worse and worse over the years. Lately W. 2nd seems to have become a popular route for highway trucks too. The result is noise pollution and I am in favour of the proposed changes which could reduce the same.
4) Great plan. The more the traffic is calmed the better. Of note, several cars are not stopping at the stop signs at lst and Cypress. Perhaps you would consider putting corner bulges there.
5) Measures have to be taken as soon as possible to slow down the speed of the traffic. The measures proposed will assist in this objective. Cars move way too fast through this area. It's quite unsafe for pets and pedestrians. The traffic circle on Arbutus and 1st does not slow down traffic. A four-way stop would work better in slowing down traffic and allowing pedestrians to cross safely.
6) I think the plan makes good sense. I am especially pleased to see the plan for the corner of York and Maple Streets as that is closest to where I live. It will slow down the traffic on Maple. Taxis and other vehicles certainly like to speed on Maple Street. The block between lst and 2nd on Cypress - East side is poorly lit and in the winter months is especially dark. Can something be done?
7) I am extremely pleased that the City is doing something to improve the horrendous traffic problem in our area. I would also like to see less public parking on 3rd Avenue. As citizens (with a paid permit) we have a problem finding parking outside our own building.
8) I would not like to see parking restored on N. Side of 4th in block west of Burrard. Rather, I would like to see No Stopping during rush hour enforced more rigidly - it's an area of frustration because people ignore the regulation there.
9) Is there anyway to restrict trucks from turning off from Burrard St. and go down 3rd Ave. It is very noisy!!
10) Good except for 4th Ave. North side parking. Even now with no parking after 3 it is difficult to get through the 1 block from Burrard to Cypress because of the slow pace on 4th due to illegally parked cars. Traffic back up from left turners on Cypress and stops because cars want to park orpull out of the next few blocks. By the time they make it to Maple St. they are so pissed off they won't even stop for pedestrians. Keep the parking restriction as is.
11) For the safety of children going and coming to Henry Hudson School, and also for Seniors which I am one going to stores at lst and Cypress sometimes one can wait 5 or 10 min they speed down Cypress. I sure hope this plan goes through.
12) Excellent. The sooner implemented the better. Note: There is also a lot of shortcutting through alleys at high speed! Any measures?
13) No left turn from Burrard from 3rd - 2nd put in a solid meridian from 4th - 1st I believe only this will show down the traffic. I would also hope that you consider more traffic circles as not only do they show down the traffic but also can beautify the area.
14) Anything that will help reduce traffic along 2nd Avenue to me, is welcome. Motorcycles, trucks are using this route more and more. Dump trucks with an extra trailer on back have used this street for a circuit (30 - 40 trucks per day) on occasion.
15) I like the idea of "bulges"!
16) I understand that in some areas of Vancouver these traffic `calming' measures (bulges, etc.) have been constructed, and then have been removed. If used here in Kitsilano let's do a permanent change.
19) Great - thanks! I live at lst & Cypress and it is BAD! Your map looks like there will be structural barriers on 1st but only alternating parking (as traffic slowers) on Cypress - I hope there will be structural barriers on Cypress too - insane drivers and bikes.
20) In your effort to reduce traffic it would be nice to see less permit parking on 3rd Avenue. Please!!
21) Good. Please follow up on this plan ASAP. Thanks for your planning work. Stop signs should be put in at York and Cypress on N & S run on Cypress. The blocks between 1st_York_Cornwall on Cypress are extremely busy and dangerous. Children, pedestrians, cyclists at risk from fast moving traffic Seems slowing methods are concentrated from 1st south to 4th leaving the speedway between Cornwall to 1st on Cypress still wide open to fast traffic. Most of the traffic is fast going from south to north to get the light - (even as I write!!) Make it on way going S. will get rid of traffic. Do the traffic calming bulges and alternate parking cause drivers looking for the fast route to become more frustrated and therefore accelerate faster?
22) Even more restrictions if possible, on 1st Ave. between Arbutus - Maple, on York between Yew and Maple. These streets are very heavily travelled as well, and will become much worse over next few years.
23) N. side 4th Ave. - allowing parking will cause congestion at Burrard corner as at that point 3 lanes will have to converge into 2.
24) As a parent with a young child I look forward to reduced traffic and traffic speeds.
25) Cypress St. is used as a major shortcut. Not only is there too much thru traffic but also very few vehicles or even cyclists obey the stop signs. I have almost been hit while walking on several occasions. You must stop the left turn onto Cypress from 4th heading east. It is not a turn used by local traffic only by people in a hurry taking a short cut to Burrard Bridge (am & pm) Bulges will slow traffic and may convince some to go down Burrard but will likely frustrate users who will run stop signs even more. Need corner bulges and 4 ways stop at 3rd and Cypress - really bad corner! No left turn on Cypress from 4th (east bound). Stop signs good but not obeyed must start policing/ticketing: especially at 1st & Cypress. Deadly corner. This includes cyclists who routinely run the stop signs. 4 way stop at 2nd & Cypress.
26) The plan as outlined should be implemented and reviewed at a later date for fine-tuning if required. I believe a four way stop at 1st and Arbutus would be safer for pedestrians as cars are forced to swerve into the pedestrian pathway area. This traffic circle is at the bottom of a hill and many cars do not slow down all that much, or put a corner bulge in there or both.
27) The overall plan is a good idea, to keep commuters out of the neighbourhood. I see nothing about the back lanes, which I'm sure the short cutters will utilize.
28) I would like to see a traffic circle on 2nd and Cypress, because it would slow down traffic. It's becoming a dangerous corner and street too.
29) Strongly in favour of measures to reduce thru traffic on residential streets.
30) I think the plan is excellent. It balances the need for reasonable traffic flow, access and movement and restoration of some measure of livability to what has become an increasingly unpleasant environment. Suggestion: Add speed bumps to the commercial lane between 4th and 3rd between Cypress and Maple, it too is becoming a high speed on ramp.
31) I go along with the overall concept of the Plan. I live in a seniors building on 2nd and Cypress, the traffic here is just too much. It's getting dangerous to cross the street in the day time. Anything would be of help. I agree to overall concept of any plan to slow the traffic down.
32) Very pleased at progress - the traffic will worsen as weather heats up from 6 a.m. till 2 a.m.
41) Good plan. Good plan.
42) Was high time something was done against that noise. I have lived here since 1975. More measures at W 2nd/Cypress - I can't cross the street - not safe - bulge or traffic circle there??
43) I think its excellent! The 4 way stop at the corner of Cypress and 1st is especially hazardous to pedestrians and cyclists.
44) Support the bicycle mid-block bulges and would like to see pedestrian/cycle zone only.
45) Looks good to me! Someone has done some good thinking and work! Congrats!! Restoring parking on the N side of 4th doesn't seem like a good idea. What's that all about?
46) It all sounds good and hopefully it will be effective. Living on the corner of 3rd and Cypress I am very aware of all the fast moving traffic. Thank you for doing something about it.
47) Please put a corner block bulge on 1st Ave and Maple. Parking on the southside of lst Ave between Maple and Arbutus should not be allowed as there have been accidents here due to mid ave bottle neck!
49) Your not doing anything for W 2nd/Cypress corner. No enough bulges or traffic circles. Need a way to cross Cypress at 2nd!! Need room for ambulances and Handidart, taxis in front of Woodcraft building. Prefer traffic circle at 2nd/Cypress.
50) Totally! I live in a condo between Cypress & Maple on 2nd (closer to Cypress and the traffic is ridiculous. Cars are constantly speeding up and down the hill on Cypress between 4th & 1st (because that's where the 1st stop sign is). Also they go speeding down 2nd Ave. Also the no left hand turn at 3rd and 2nd is a fabulous idea, but it should also be at 1st as there is a left turn at Cornwall & 4th. However, I think traffic circles would be better as they force people to slow right down especially when there is less traffic late at night, they can't run the stop signs etc. Traffic circles should be on Cypress at 3rd, 2nd and York and also on Maple at 2nd. (I don't know how busy Arbutus is between 3rd and 1st). Anyways I am happy that something is finally being done!!!
51) Yes, specifically slow the traffic on Cypress.
52) A bulge at 2nd and Cypress.
53) Southbound Burrard traffic has left turn
lights (arrows) northbound has left turn lane into 4th but no arrows _ 2 car scoot on
amber light. On Cypress crossing 4th you get a light change allowing safe crossing. Left
turn arrow on N. bound Burrard would offer safe turning alternative.
54) Bulge at W. 2nd/Cypress. Unsafe as it is
55) Good plan. A bulge at corner W. 2nd and Cypress needed. Unsafe to cross street - too much traffic.
58) I like the concept of the bicycle mid-block bulges on Cypress. They should discourage cars without significantly slowing down cyclists. Both factors that make cycle commuting more pleasant.
59) It's naive to believe that anyone will yield at the bulges - drivers are generally rude and aggressive and I think you'll see more accidents. Arbutus Street is problematic with speeds too high for safety. Stop signs at 2nd Ave must remain.
60) This is an excellent plan - long in coming! Thank you! Would you consider a traffic circle at Cypress & York? The bicycle mid-block bulges are a great idea - how about parking between & 1st to further reduce traffic speed? Will emergency vehicles still have adequate access? Thanks!
61) Yes, I am all for the proposed plan. As a
pedestrian, cyclist and resident of the neighbourhood the traffic between 2nd, 3rd and 4th
Avenues is terrible, and dangerous, cars travelling too fast.
Limit the number of trucks travelling on Cypress St.
Extremely hazardous for cyclist and pedestrians.
62) My only concern is that these measures will significantly increase the traffic turning from Burrard on to 1st Ave. Suggestion would be to have a dedicated turning signal from Burrard onto 4th instead of a turning signal from lst onto Burrard. This would still allow turning from Burrard onto 1st but may encourage more turning onto 4th. It's a busier street and traffic on it should be encouraged instead of 1st. And it could be planned at the same time as the turning signal from Burrard onto 4th E. Bound.
63) Fantastic Plan!! Needs additional measures at W 2nd/Cypress. Additional bulge at that corner or traffic circle. W. 2nd too heavy of traffic and dangerous to cross because of no stop sign (Cypress N & S) Can't cross. Too much traffic. Dangerous speeds. Too many trucks.
64) Too much traffic down Cypress. Too many loud trucks. More bulges at corner of W. 2nd/Cypress.
65) Step out and live! I am a big fan of traffic calming.
66) Will restricting left turns from Burrard on to 2nd and 3rd Ave not increase turns on to 1st Ave at signal and traffic west bound between Cypress and Arbutus on 1st. Has any thought been given to stopping through west bound traffic on 1st at Cypress, allowing west traffic only from Cypress south bound similar to blocking devices in west end. Also a crosswalk at 4th and Maple would be very welcome to pedestrians, two white lanes no signal needed not expensive.
67) 3rd Ave has become convenient alternate to 4th Ave. An island on 3rd at Cypress or Maple is needed to discourage this. Second best would be 4 way stop signs.
70) Concern about mid-block bulge - alley - between 1st and 2nd ave - many residents of apts. And stratas exit via alley - to turn south out onto Cypress - placing vehicle out into path of on coming north bound traffic. Difficult access for heavy trucks, i.e. refuse collectors?
71) Pedestrian crossings should have lights facing all directions - cars and bicycle crossings are too hazardous and accident prone with only 2 lights - eg. 4th & Cypress / 4th & Vine.
72) Need way to cross at Cypress and W. 2nd bulge?
73) Badly needed - in the almost 6 years I've lived here, traffic has increased dramatically down Maple & Cypress. The 4 way stop at Maple and 1st is one of the best new additions - there seemed to be almost an accident a day before installation. I would like to see more traffic circles used - but with driver education on how to use them. I'm uncertain about 3-6 pm restrictions on LH turns at 2nd & 3rd will that not increase traffic turning left at Burrard and then using Cypress & Maple to access? How about another bulge on Maple between 3rd & York - skateboarders and cars use Maple as a speed track too, paying scant attention to stop signs.
76) Make sure curbs installed are not too high so people can get out of cars or taxis. Make sure room is allowed on street for taxis, handidart and ambulances to access building. Need additional bulges or traffic circle or W. 2nd/Cypress. Plan doesn't do enough for that corner.
77) I believe it is a mistake to groom Cornwall Ave as a major (i.e. fast) through way - speeding is rampant because Cornwall is extremely wide. I believe a slow-down of traffic on Cornwall should also be introduced - the street is unnecessarily wide and invites speeding. Wider sidewalks, street trees, and/or a bicycle only lane would produce a more livable (and attractive!) Cornwall Ave and reduce speeding.
78) I support any measures to calm traffic in this part of Kitsilano. The stretch of 3rd Ave. Between Vine & Cypress is like a dragstrip for motorists seeking to bypass traffic on 4th. In particular the sound of screeching tires and the near collisions between motorists at the corners of 3rd and Maple beg for either a traffic circle or at the very least a 4 way stop sign.
79) Circle at 2nd & Cypress
80) If you believe it will actually calm the traffic then I'm for it. It seems that traffic is only really congested in the summer. Does it make it more difficult for residents to get into their own neighbourhood?
81) Would it not be cheaper to place no left turns at peak times on the intersections from 4th, Burrard, etc.
82) Need to slow and reduce traffic on Cypress.
83) Thank you!
84) I am concerned about increased traffic on Arbutus from the Maple & Cypress streets changes. Landscaped bulges okay! But cement barriers are unacceptable! (as exist on Cypress at Broadway for example).
85) Would you consider a four way stop or corner bulges at Maple & Third? Traffic going west on Third on Maple to Arbutus is very noisy on the cobblestones when going at high speeds especially during rush hours.
86) 3rd Ave. & Cypress needs an island to slow what has become an alternative through fare for 4th. 3rd & Maple could probably use a 4 way stop - same goal. Keep 4th as a faster moving throughfare - Don't allow parking between Burrard and Arbutus 3rd and Burrard is where traffic from the Bridge turns - otherwise good maybe bulges will do it?
87) More stop signs and much more enforcement of stop signs - especially for bicycle riders who obviously dont think that stop signs apply to them.
88) Sounds like a solid plan. Let's hope it works!
89) Excellent. We hope bulges will be landscaped or open to gardening by residents.
90) How about a 4 way stop at Cypress & York? Crossing Cypress street at this location can be a challenge at rush hour.
93) Do not restore parking on north side of 4th Ave. During rush hour because as traffic backs up on 4th ave (west bound) all the way back to Burrard - cars turn off onto Cypress & Maple to avoid traffic. This one parking change works against the objective, easy unrestricted traffic flow on 4th Ave needs to be worked on. For example: no left turn from 4th Ave to south bound Arbutus St. during afternoon rush period or parking on 4th northside between Maple and Arbutus during rush.
93) I am more concerned about the speed than I am the volume.
96) It would be about time. The traffic is terrible and cars are speeding way too fast in this neighbourhood. I think there should be more traffic circles because they force vehicles to slow right down even at night when there's less traffic.
97) I am concerned that too many corner and mid block bulges would cause traffic jams. Left turn restrictions off Burrard a good idea. North-South stop signs for Maple at York are a definite must, I've seen too many close calls at this intersection..
99) I welcome anything that reduced volume and speed of traffic in our neighbourhood. We live on 1800 W. 3rd. I would like speed bumps on the street to slow the outrageous and dangerous speeders.
100) As a cyclist and pedestrian I agree with the plan.
101) I support any way of slowing down traffic. I am in a wheelchair and have found the amount of traffic too high. I would feel much safer crossing streets with slower and less traffic. The bulges sound great as long as they remain accessible - level curb cuts!
102) Try to lessen stress and confusion that these many changes will cause to persons used to the old (comfortable) routes for many years....before streets became so congested. Certain blocks have become more dangerous since changes in Parking for example 2000 block between Arbutus and Maple on 3rd Ave - no room for passing ....yes too high speeds by many cars anxious to get through first. Lower speed limits on these few congested blocks.
105) The City really needs to consider putting traffic lights at 4th & Maple. Lots of J walking across 4th, due to the no. of businesses and restaurants at the intersection. The only intersection on this busy 4th Ave section without a cross-walk or light signals.
106) Great plan.
107) I have noticed a couple of near accidents and one actual accident at 3rd and Cypress. The 2 way stop as opposed to a 4 way stop is the problem. Traffic on 2nd and 3rd crossing Cypress see the back of a parking regulation sign and assume they are at a 4 way stop. Perhaps there should be 4 way stops at 2nd & 3rd at Cypress?
108) Better than traffic circles - more parking is desirable. South bound Cypress traffic should yield to east bound 3rd Ave traffic (visibility) - diversion of traffic down lane north of 4th bad for residents at south side of 3rd ave. - remove 1 parking space at north west corner at Cypress and 3rd along Cypress (visibility).
109) Please do! It scares me to watch the speed of vehicles travelling along Cypress. Thx!
110) Often cars will use our back lane as a fast thorough fare. DANGEROUS for those exiting underground parking.
111) Concerning the parking on 4th during rush hour - will not the act of people parking slow down or create a traffic problem on 4th and the intersection at Burrard. It is already a long wait to get through this intersections when travelling west on 4th.
112) Anything that would reduce noise level, esp. from motor cycles is welcomed. Also more young children now reside in our neighbourhood. Safety a big issue now.
113) I strongly feel that not enough barriers are in place to slow down traffic on Cypress period! To have a designated cycle path lane and to increase car traffic by having Cypress the 1st access north of Burrard is a design for future disaster. We need traffic circles like those on Cypress south of Burrard. What's the difference? For reason's sake we have an elementary school at the foot of Cypress north! I don't think circles will impact the retail on 1st Ave as the majority of the customers work and secondly we currently have a designated left hand turn off Burrard at 1st. We need to slow cars down and corner and mid-block bulges are not enough!!
114) I am favour of traffic calming generally as outlined. I think that having parking on both sides of the street, midblock, is often the most practical solution - fulfills 2 needs. This has been working well on my street - Third Ave - since you implemented it recently. Thank you.
115) I like the idea of alternating parking every block. I also agree with the traffic bulges near Henry Hudson School. A 4 way stop sign is essential on the corner of Cypress and 2nd. We now can listen to all the cars screeching and bumping (and swearing) just about every day. It's a dangerous intersection. This is my primary concern.
117) Overall concept will calm traffic. I definitely support calming measures on York between Cypress and Maple and on Maple between Cornwall and York by use of "block bulges" to calm traffic (speeding) near Henry Hudson Elementary School. Many kids travel that route to school and it is important to protect the kids from traffic and speeding. This plan achieves that.
118) Very good idea. I like to ride my bike around the neighbourhood - and I'll appreciate the mid-block bulges. A corner bulge on Maple and 1st would be a nice addition to the plan. Currently a lot of cars speed through the 4 way stop without stopping. There tends to be at least one near crash a day. (I can hear the squealing tires and car horns from my apartment).
119) Plan okay - but as a driver I am quite perturbed by the skateboarders who use our local streets - they never obey any of the traffic laws. I think a definite 4 way stop sign should be planned for Cypress/2nd Ave.
120) This looks great! The volume of traffic on Cypress in the afternoon, weekdays, is crazy. What about restricting left turns from 4th onto Cypress at rush hour? I believe these short-cutters are one of the biggest problems.
123) Access to back lane has also be curtailed because already now there is plenty of speedy traffic using the back lanes. If this is not done traffic will use all the back lanes and it will cause even more trouble to the resident than actually
124) Would like to see no parking signs at the entrances to the lane in the 1900 block between York and 1st Avenue which would be Cypress an Maple. It would be a real hazard if an emergency vehicle should have to get through.
125) 1) All the crosses had better have 4 stop signs. 2)Vans and trucks should not park closer than 10 meters of any cross. 3) There are very few parking places in Kitsilano.
126) The idea of slowing and reducing traffic is good but some measures are counter-productive. As a cyclist I am concerned that corner and mid-block bulges will put cyclists at risk of being side-swiped or cut off by cars trying to beat the bikes through the narrow park. The other measures seem logical. I would also like to comment on the (traffic circle) "round-about" at 1st and Arbutus. The stop signs that were there before were more effective. Now no one feels they must stop. Cars try to beat each other to it and veer across the path of pedestrians.
127) I do not agree with the proposed calming measures intended for Cypress Street as this artery is used frequently to access my residence from various locations west and south of my residence. Having to travel to Burrard as opposed to Cypress only increases the number of left turns and further constricts traffic flow. Thank you.
129) Excellent! A concern, traffic at 3rd and Maple is large and fast. How about a 4 way stop sign?
131) I don't support restoring parking on 4th as I feel this lane is necessary for traffic flow up 4th. The mid-block bulge between 4th & 3rd on Cypress I would suggest is adequate for reducing speeds of vehicles coming off 4th.
132) I am very pleased to see a plan move forward - this is long in waiting. Bulges are very good options - circles do not seem to be a good option - esp. on a bike route. I still strongly believe more stop signs will help on Cypress as cars turning onto Cypress often can't see traffic - so they inch out or just go and almost hit traffic N & S bound on Cypress. I live at this corner and see/hear near accidents frequently! If there is min traffic at times - the bulges will not prevent the problem above as cars still do not have to stop on Cypress. If traffic is light people can still speed and swerve around bulges. Also - speed seems to be a problem when 1 car is yielding to oncoming traffic - I find the oncoming traffic tends to speed up to get out of the way.
133) Yes, Great! Thanks. Please ensure that if the street is narrowed at Arbutus and 2nd the parking way back from stop sign is aggressively enforced - otherwise visibility will be greatly reduced. Is there a left turn advance signal from Burrard to 4th - heading north? Or just a separate lane. Signal would be a good idea. 2nd Avenue at corner of Burrard - too narrow with parking allowed there - people pulling into gas station and strip mall - hazardous.
135) I am pleased to see the priorities and needs of our neighbourhood taken seriously. Nobody likes the sound of constant traffic in their home. Plus, having a school with high volume of child foot traffic should be taken into consideration - the speed and lack of courtesy of drivers bombing through residential streets needs to be seriously curtailed - i.e. traffic circles, 4 way stops, measures such as exist in the west end. Need more permit only parking all along both sides of the street. 4 Way stops on ALL corners, not just some. People really speed in our neighbourhood. Maybe thistraffic calming proposal should also be linked to increasing transit options, thereby reducing car users - so often I see one person per vehicle. The City of Vancouver needs to seriously address the effectiveness of our transit system i.e. making it appealing enough to drivers so that they leave their car at HOME.
136) Excellent idea! I have been growing frustrated with all the traffic. A 4 way stop sign at 3rd & Maple would also help to slow down people racing along 3rd! We often hear near misses (horns, screaming, etc.) at this corner.
138) No parking on 4th between Cypress and Burrard. LHT lane markings made clearer at northbound Burrard to Cornwall.
139) Arbutus should be re thought and made into a major north/south corridor. I see many cars turning down Cypress because of traffic backups from the Arbutus lights. Yew Street does not work as a major north/south connector as it dead-ends at Cornwall and 4th (residential). Treat the Henry Hudson block as a school zone! Put up signs all around, including Cornwall. Enforce speed restrictions during school hours and calm traffic on Cypress between Cornwall and 1st - speed bumps would work. These are our children and must be protected.
140) Something needed to be done and I applaud those who put their time and energy into coming up with something. This neighbourhood is way too busy and noisy. One concern - where will all that traffic go? Connected to above question - I picture horrendous traffic line-ups on Burrard and 4th. Hope that this is brought into the equation. Personally I am prepared to pay any price for a quieter, calmer neighbourhood.
141) Reducing volume and speed of traffic is great. 50K speed limit here is silly - same as 6 lane Granville St! How about 30K? Parking on N side of 4th makes access difficult for residents. Is it enough to rely on the Cypress Street measures?
142) I fully support the concept of reducing traffic in the whole neighbourhood. It is a good start. If Cypress still needs help a further survey will show it. I am concerned that the intersection of 2nd and Cypress needs further measures. I think there should be bulges on Cypress at 2nd (as well as the bicycle bulges on Cypress).
143) Great! It is hazardous being a pedestrian crossing Cypress St. or walking down it and crossing any of the cross streets. Drivers speed too fast between 4th Ave. And 1st Ave. drivers entering Cypress St. ignore (don't see) pedestrians. Please beautify with plantings the corner - or midblock -bulges as soon as possible - soon after the permanent installation.
144) The traffic on Cypress St. are travelling too fast. Large business should be relocated as they take up the only few parking spaces in the area, there is no parking for visitors. The City should notbe allowed to have parking permits for residents only - then charge for it, it should be public parking in a residents area. Where are visitors supposed to park?
145) Not being well informed on measures such as this - I can only hope the proposed measures are going far enough - the problem on Cypress with through traffic is severe.
146) It's time to move on with this! Let's build
into the report to Council that work starts immediately. I would like an explanation from
Council why our very first recommendation, i.e. for double sided parking can't be
revisited, when I have in the last year seen many streets around town that are just as
"narrow" or narrower , have double sided parking. There is a good start, Jim.
147) The proposed measures will increase safety to
cyclists.
148) I feel very strongly that no existing parking spots should be lost to this calming plan.
149) Overall concept in right direction but requires further devices to discourage the high traffic especially on Arbutus. The previous introduction of 2 sided parking was excellent helped increase parking and decrease through traffic.
B. COMMENTS FROM THOSE AGAINST THE PLAN
1) It's a waste of money and will only result in the frustration of everyone concerned. This has been the end product of what you've done in this area so far; with parking and traffic circles. It is more dangerous than ever to drive here or walk. The bulges will only serve to take away much needed parking. The traffic in this area is most likely residents. Speeding is not an issue but cyclists running stop signs, red lights, etc. is.
2) Things are just fine the way they are. No additional changes required. Cornwall light solved 90% of problem. Do not put in no left turn signs at 2nd and 3rd. Do not put in corner and mid block bulges.
3) Traffic parking around bulges in other parts of the city is a laugh as cars creep farther forward into the curve of the bulge, making it much more difficult to drive around and making people angry. I feel traffic bulges on already narrow streets is ludicrous. As someone who walks, rides transit and drives a sub-compact I find the streets are already too narrow and visibility meager. The existing traffic circle at Arbutus and 1st is a pedestrian nightmare as cars swing too wide to go around it. I have always noticed that any `traffic measure" that makes drivers angry - makes walking in the city even scarier.
4) The plan will just make things worse for Cypress to Burrard residents because drivers will go along 4th to Cypress and then back track to businesses along Burrard. The left turn restrictions are not required or else the above will occur. The corner bulge will increase thechance of head on collisions for cars turning right especially if cars are parked on same side as corner bulge.
5) May work for other streets. A mid-block bulge would create more of a parking problem since we would lose some parking space. (3rd & Burrard). A no-left turn would greatly inconvenience local residents such as myself.
6) Do nothing lower taxes now.
7) Our streets are narrow enough without any more cement. I find the circle cement is a hazard to pedestrians. They force the cars to come out to the area you are crossing the intersection. Four way stops are great! To put in bulges on our narrow street would be a disaster! For the city to spend money on this is outrageous. Leave our neighbourhood alone for a while.
8) The restrictions are not going to reduce bicycle traffic - the reason for the bicycle traffic is the cyclists are sponsored by a local merchant - the plan will just exaggerate any volume problems. I think corner and mid-block bulges are expensive and annoying - they create traffic delays and narrow the street which is inherently dangerous. Restoring parking on 4th during the afternoon will just cause more traffic delays and encourage people to drive on our residential streets to avoid the delays - I do not see how this will restrict traffic on Cypress.
9) By narrowing 1st Ave. At Cypress is only going to create large back ups. There is no enforcement done now so there are a lot of problems with the roundabouts so the "bulges" will just create more. The old measures have calmed traffic but there is no "speed" enforcement done. Instead of narrowing Maple make it no left turns from 3-6 pm. Also no left turns on to Cypress at anytime. Also if there are new business opening they should have enough parking or old ones should have some such as gym that have customers from outside the area. Also more parking enforcement should be done.
10) The traffic in our neighbourhood is congested for about one hour in the morning and 1 ‡ hours in the evening rush. For this short period of time, I feel there are no needed changes, this year.
11) The resulting inconvenience to area residents far outweighs the putative benefits. Cypress may have "problems of its own", requiring measures there only. Parking changes: breaking up the view down the roadway will (probably) increase MV accidents.
12) I oppose corner and mid-block bulges. I support left-turn restrictions as proposed.
13) I've lived more for 14 years - the traffic isn't that much worse than 10 years ago. The extra single lane areas make it inconvenient for the residents to get around their own neighbourhood. I don't like single lane meeting areas - many people don't understand the yield concept. I like to be able to turn in off of Burrard - I'd like to have convenient access to my home.
14) Traffic calming - reduce width of street so that 2 cars cannot pass. This does not provide ease of access for local residents. It also increase chance of car accidents. Bulges -If you want to only have space for one vehicle make roads one way don't bring two cars together head on. If Cypress is meant to be a bicycle route there should be no on street parking. Parked cars increase hazards for cyclists.
15) No south side parking on 1st Ave at Maple and Arbutus.
16) I really object to these proposed traffic calming measures. Even if they do reduce the amount of commuter traffic running through the neighbourhood, the inconvenience to the residents is just too great. The left turn restrictions on Burrard and the narrowing of streets are nothing but a big pain!
17) This will make living and moving about the neighbourhood difficult. There is no traffic safety problem here. I want an open neighbourhood. This will worsen congestion on transit routes. Move bulges on Arbutus to south side of street to maintain visibility. Left turn restrictions on Burrard aren't needed with lights at 1st stopping traffic - drivers will come via 2nd/3rd across Burrard.
18) I feel there will be more traffic on York Ave between Arbutus and Maple. Because I walk or ride my bike this area , I can not see this concept working! The cars don't respect stop sign that are there now. At many four way stops that exist now the cars do not come to a complete stop. I have had many time been head to head with cars passing on the wrong side of corner bulge.
20) Those plans will make driving in our neighbourhood a nightmare for us pedestrians as has permit parking and parking on both sides of 3rd! Instead of spending thousands on concrete barriers, and bulges, please consider using 4 way stops liberally instead!
21) We are concerned that the no turning left onto 3rd from Burrard 3-6 pm will not be convenient for our clients.
22) Things are just fine - the way they are. No additional changes required. Cornwall light solved 90% of problem. No not put in No Left Turn signs at 2nd and 3rd. Do not put in corner & mid block bulges.
24) Recent changes to parking have only served to make drivers angry and impatient. I have witnessed several cursing and yelling matches between drivers trying to get thru "one lanes" 1st more of this and "bulges" can only produce more road rage. I have lived in this area for 8 years and am a pedestrian and drive and don't see why you want to fix something that isn't broken. If traffic need to be cautioned about speed, then set up some radar periodically - its always good motivation to slow down.
25) I'm all in favour of calming would be grand prix drivers cutting through our streets and back lanes, so I've appreciated the introduction of 4 way stops and the stop light at Maple and Cornwall BUT this new plan strikes me as overkill that will create bottlenecks for those of us who live here. I have the double bulges on Maple - how am I to access Cornwall from that street? Nor do I see the necessity for all the bulges and additional parking on Cypress. As for restoring parking to the north side of 4th between Cypress and Burrard to run the other way afternoon rush...maybe. I really don't see the necessity for all these measures, even though I, too, curse all the careening drivers. I predict endless bottlenecks, road rage and eventually some head-ons if you implement these changes. I am totally opposed to most of them.
26) Leave things the way they are now. The intersection of 4th and Burrard is much better. You have provided enough special allowances for bikes. There will always be traffic in the city. Stop listening to Nimby's. The bulges are a waste of money that will just frustrate everyone. Those of us who live here still have to drive here.
27) The plan is unnecessary. The level of traffic in this neighbourhood (including Cypress) does not appear particularly high. Corner bulges are a particularly stupid idea in my opinion. The alternating parking could be very dangerous as it would be unexpected.
28) Local traffic has already been slowed down by putting parking on both sides of the street. In my area, barriers will remove too many already rare parking stalls. Roundabouts are good ideas. Either ban cars altogether on some blocks or let traffic flow normally. There are enough frustrated drivers already.
29) Parking was recently permitted on the south side of 3rd Ave between Maple and Arbutus. Although it has provided more parking it has also proven to create frustrating traffic blockages for residents. People are inconsiderate and do not alternate. Traffic yielding to south and south yielding to north is ridiculous. Leave the streets alone! Paint no parking areas back from stop signs to increase pedestrian visibility. Encourage use of main roads by increasing the number of advance left turns. The only reason no residents use side streets is because they're faster. Instead of slowing the side streets for residents by creating unnecessary blockages; make the main arteries more efficient! Add stop signs to Cypress between 4th and 1st and slow traffic.
30) Overall good plan, but parking in this area is already limited; "bulges" don't slow people down - they irritate them. Restrictions to left hand turns is a bad idea. Have you ever driven downtown?
31) I disagree with mid block bulges. What about weekend parking restrictions? If you want to increase safety, restrict and enforce people parking too close to corners.
32) I think there are too many bulges. The same thing can be accomplished with alternating stop signs and/or traffic circles. The increased parking on both sides of the street also accomplished the same thing, but only when necessary - i.e. 2 cars coming along the same street but in opp. directions. To lose some of this parking to bulges would be a shame. When friends come to visit they can find parking now close to me - not blocks away as was sometimes the case. Cypress is probably the worse - so don't keep it as a thru street. Put stop signs on Cypress at 3rd. My biggest complaint is you need to be ‡ way into intersection to see passed parked cars. You can't put bulges on all four corners but stop signs or traffic circles work effectively here. How about some educational info on correct use of traffic circle?
33) I worry about the narrowing of the curbs and I can observe the consternation caused by the island at 1st and Arbutus and so many drivers not knowing right of way, etc. But most importantly 1880 W 2nd is an apt for seniors and handicapped people - e.g. Rick Hansen lived here and some team of planners decided that private cars and handidart can't unload tenants and groceries, etc. Cypress entrance where the ramp is for wheelchairs and walkers. We have to block the lane way and private garage entrance to get out of vehicles. So as far as we are concerned Cypress and 2nd should not have parking on the east side of the street and a 15 min drop off time to get rid of the curb.
C. COMMENTS FROM THOSE NEUTRAL TO THE PLAN
1) While I am in favour of efforts to reduce the traffic volume and speed of vehicles on Cypress Street, I feel that the number of mid-block bulges on Cypress is excessive. I live in a condominium complex near the NW corner of 2nd Avenue and Cypress. I access my building's parking garage through the back lane, which runs parallel to 2nd between Cypress and Maple Street. I feel that the mid-block bulge on Cypress between 1st and 2nd will make it difficult to make either a left or right turn from the back lane onto Cypress. I also feel that the mid-block bulge, so close to a 4-way stop at 1st Avenue and Cypress, will lead to an increase in congestion in traffic.
2) It's not a bad idea, but the city should focus its resources on improving public transit as a means of decreasing the amount of car use.
3) Put in a corner bulge at 1st and Maple - stop the accidents where traffic bottle necks.
4) I appreciate the efforts to calm traffic and I support circles, bumps and 4 way stops however.... I am very much against narrowing roadways. My experience is that this only induces frustration and road rage which is more dangerous than speed. 1st Avenue near the Bread Garden is congested enough without adding further barriers to traffic flow.
5) This will force all the traffic onto Maple St and just move the problem. The left turn lane on Burrard is causing major problems. Make very intersection 4 way stop. This is cost effective. The rest is a waste of money.
7) It seems like a good idea, however, I do not like the fact that it is being implemented without any changes to the commuter routes (Cornwall, 4th Ave.) Therefore there will be slower traffic all around while in reality there are ever more cars.
8) Get rid of the sleeper parkers on 1900 block W 1st Ave.
D. E-MAILS
1) On behalf of the parents of students who attend Henry Hudson Elementary, I would like to say thank you for addressing our concerns re traffic around the school. In particular: Pedestrian crosslight at Maple and Cypress, now bulges at Maple and York, and Cypress and York; and fixing the corners at Cypress and Cornwall, now under construction. Also some pedestrian traffic calming at Vine and Cornwall where one of our students was killed, and re-instatement of parking the north side of Cornwall between Vine and Balsam. The last thing we request is to slow down the traffic along Cypress. Many, many thanks. Your efforts do NOT go unoticed.
2) Arbutus Street - 4 way stops already exist at York, 2nd and 3rd Aves. and a traffic circle at 1st. Don't mess with them! They work very weell. Bulges would serve no purpose. I use this street at least twice daily and bless the 4 way stops each time. I can remember when they wern't there. Maple St.- At York, why can't there just be a 4 way stop? I don't see how bulges would help. 2nd Ave. definately and perhaps 3rd as well, just 4 way stops would be swell. People then have to stop and the traffic slows down. Don"t see any necessity for bulges at the lane between 3rd and 4th. Cypress St. - No bulges but instead a 4 way stop at intersectiuons where one doesn't already exist. As a result, traffic has to slow down. So, no bulges and 4 way stops at all the intersections!! on Arbutus St. It would seem by your proposal that you would elimainate the 4 way stops in one directionand put in bulges instead. I think that this would be a mistake. The present system works well. Thank you for reading this.
3) Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to comment on the Traffic Calming Plan for North East Kitsilano. Generally, I am very happy to see the issue of traffic being addressed in this area and support traffic calming measures as we have a large volume of pedestrian and bicycle traffic in the area. I live on First Avenue in the block immediately to the west of Cypress Street, and have lived here for a number of years, and have been pleased by some changes that have been made and dismayed by others. I will limit my comments to this plan only. Although I recognize the necessity for access to the commercial area to the east of Cypress Street, the left turn light at Burrard and First lane encourages traffic to use First Avenue going west as a shortcut. I hope that the sidewalk bulge will alleviate this, however as it appears to be on the south side, and the need is more on the north, I am concerned that it will not. I was relieved to see that new traffic circles are not part of the plan. As a pedestrian, these are unnerving, as the signage necessary to direct the traffic, and the landscaping in the middle, obstruct the view of traffic going through. In addition, vehicles frequently do not use these properly - they shortcut if turning left, and many vehicles do not slow down significantly. Lastly, I hope that some policing will take place periodically to ensure that these measures are being used appropriately. I often walk along the 7th Avenue bike route and see many, many vehicles going through where only bicycles are allowed. I was amused by the gall of one vehicle last week who stopped behind two bicycle police officers at a stop sign opposite a traffic diversion which allows bicycles to go through, but requires vehicles to turn right or left. The police officers then continued across the street to the west as they were allowed. The vehicle behind waited a moment to let them get ahead of him a bit, they continued straight ahead, around the barrier and down the street. Nervy, huh?
4)Do you support the overall concept of the
Traffic Calming Plan? YES
My only concerns and suggestions surround the area
on Cypress St and Cornwall to 4th. I am a condo owner at 1st and Cypress and agree that
there is too much traffic. However, I have some concerns regarding the additional measures
to be taken on Cypress. To have one lane of traffic would cause too much strain on the
flow for the residences. Currently, there is parking on the East side of the Cypress
between 1st and York and I would state that there are tremendous reduction of sitelines
pulling out of the Alley which is very dangerous and an accident waiting to happening.
This is the same alley that services the Canadian Tire, the commercial aspects of
Yorkville and surrounding and the residences. That Alley is particular tight with
offending parkers (which should be towed). My concern with the mid block bulges is that it
may be too restrictive and will restrict flow for the residences. Are there any other
alternatives? Thank you
5) Overall, we are in favour of the calming plan.
My following comments are specifically directed at Cypress Street, Lane N/4th Avenue to
3rd Avenue. As you know, our townhouse complex is bordered by the Lane N/4th Avenue.
Egress to our inside garage and 2 outside parking stalls are through this commercial lane.
The traffic flow is very high and is encouraged with the paid parking lot next to Mark's
Work Warehouse, customer parking for the stores on 4th Avenue, 3rd Avenue apartment
parking, and now, the new commercial/residential development on 1843 to 1845 West 4th Ave.
We have formally raised a concern about lane traffic congestion and speed to the Traffic
Management branch (see attached file: City Traffic Management.doc) in the past. It's my
understanding that the proposed plan is not meant to address the calming of traffic
through this lane and how it might help with turns from and into the lane. In particular,
I find exiting the lane heading west and turning right and heading north extremely tight.
Adding a corner bulge I believe will increase the difficulty of making a right-turn. I ask
that you reconsider the addition of the corner bulge. For interest and possible sharing at
the Open House meeting with others, I attach some recent photos of the lane intersection
including dump trucks "cutting the corner". While the tracks on the lawn are
fresh from the dump trucks, the whole in our lawn corner was created previously by
passenger vehicles going over the curb when turning right.
My other suggestion is to keep the permit parking on
the west side of Cypress St. between L/N 4th Ave. and 3rd Ave. Our preference is to keep
the parking traffic as far away from our front doors and windows which face Cypress
Street. Presently the parking is on the west side and is widely used by the apartment
tenants. These two concerns can be addressed by leaving things are they are now for
Cypress St. between L/N 4th Ave. and 3rd Ave.
In summary, we are in favour of the overall calming
plan with these reconsiderations.
6) It still appears Cypress is still going to be
busy, even with your corner or mid block buldges. I think you need more stop signs? What
is the definition of a cycle path? i think it should have the feeling of 8th ave - bike
route. The occasional car. As Cypress is so narrow I would even like a road where you
don't have to compete with the cars. I would vote for cul de sac or bulge where only bikes
could get through( like Ontario street.) say at 2nd and cypress. This would really cut
down the amount of cars and make it safe to ride.
I like the west end where there are lots of cul de
sac, you can't take a short cut through the West end. Another area that is difficult is
4th and Arbutus. People are turning left and other turning right blocking cars behind
trying to go straight through. Therefore cars cut down through Cypress and Maple. Could a
few parking spaces be taken from in front of Sophies cafe and a right hand lane be made
down Arbutus. Or are you trying to make Yew Street the through fare to Cornwall
7) As a resident of 1888 York Avenue, I thank you
for the recent progress announced at the meeting on Tuesday, June 15, at H. Hudson School
in planning a quieter, less trafficpolluted neighbourhood. I am encouraged by, and welcome
the measures that are being undertaken to lower the traffic volume on Cypress street which
has become increasingly
intolerable. However, I don't believe these measures
go far enough. A few minutes ago, my telephone call was interrupted by an all too frequent
sound; a screaming fire engine roaring by my window. The fact that this happens so
frequently indicates that Cypress, which should be a residential street, is actually
considered a main traffic artery. Why else would the Fire and Police departments use it so
frequently when they could just as easily take Burrard? They, as well as thousands of
motorists, know that it is a convenient short cut, and disturbing the peace of the
residents and of the school, is totally disregarded. In my view, there is only one
solution; A cul-de-sac must be created at Cypress and Cornwall to discourage the use of
our street as a highway. This would not affect the commercial aspect of the area because
cars could still circulate around the block from 1st and Cypress, down to York, with the
option of turning East or West. This would discourage the temptation of speeding by the
school and using Cypress as a shortcut to Cornwall. The restaurants, grocery stores and
cafes, along with the residents on first avenue from Burrard to Cypress, would also
benefit from the quieter atmosphere this measure would create. Keeping in mind that the
area that would be most affected is the school zone itself, I truly
believe this is the solution to the increasing noise
and pollution that has invaded this potentially charming Kitsilano neigborhood. I have
taken the time to write this letter in the hope that you will give my suggestion due
consideration.
8) We don't have any objections to increasing the
number and types of traffic calming measures installed along Cypress and Maple. We don't
even mind that Arbutus is a busy street. We do, however, object very much to the fact that
the proposed plan does not provide any "compensation" to Arbutus for the role
that it must perform. At the very least, we think that the City should plant street trees
along Arbutus, wherever possible. Along this line, we don't think the proposed curb
extensions on 3rd and 2nd will make much of a difference to the safety of peds or traffic
speeds, but the landscaping opportunity is a welcome one. Why would you not have curb
extensions on Arbutus also where they could do more to affect traffic speeds and, through
landscaping, enhance the appearance of the street?
There is no pedestrian "walk" signal for
peds wanting to cross Arbutus at 4th Ave. As traffic volumes have increased, the lack of a
crossing signal is proving to be increasingly hazardous. We often witness peds being
caught by surprise in the middle of Arbutus when the light changes. Often people don't
seem to realize the light has even changed until the traffic has come dangerously close.
The proposed curb extensions on Maple St between 4th
and 3rd are a bit of a mystery. The existing parking (when there are cars parked, as they
typically are) already narrows the road and requires that drivers "weave"
mid-block. As few peds need to cross this street mid-block, the curb extensions proposed
are of little benefit in that regard; and, with the existing parking situation and the
stop sign at 3rd, speeds are not excessive. In fact, theonly hazardous part of this block
is the corner adjacent to Las Margaritas. To avoid slowing, drivers going westbound on 4th
pull into the parking lane to turn right. This can be dangerous for peds crossing Maple,
but even more so for peds trying to step off the curb to cross 4th. Installing a curb
extension on the east side of Maple at 4th would help solve this situation. We would like
to also suggest that you consider similar improvements at
Cypress and 4th.
When will the City consider making improvements
along 4th Ave? Curb extensions could greatly improve the ability of peds to cross 4th at
uncontrolled intersections, for example. It is particularily dangerous to cross 4th at
Maple!
Speeds around Henry Hudson School, particularily on
Cypress, are far too high to be safe; and, crossing Cypress at York can be very difficult
and hazardous. Why didn't you propose curb extensions on Cypress in this location?
Lastly, we'd just like to note that, once again, it
is frustrating to receive transporation information from your department that goes no
further west than Arbutus and no further south than 4th, even though we assume (like last
time) that you are making changes beyond these boundaries. Such changes could dramatically
affect my family's situation, yet you draw an arbitrary line and assume we don't need to
be sent information outside the "NE" area. Given that we commented on this
problem during the last planning exercise
your department undertook, it seems silly that you
wouldn't have taken a different approach this time. If you don't provide good information,
how can you expect to get good information?
E. SURVEY COMMENTS FROM THE KITS POINT NEIGHBOURHOOD
1) I am a resident in Kits Point and regularly use Cypress St. to access the food and deli stores on Cypress at First avenue. I have read about your new traffic slow down ideas for Cypress and have no problems with them, but I do have a concern with the light at Cypress at Cornwall. The parking dept. has put new parking meters right up to the corner on Cypress at Cornwall and that is making congestion at that corner much worse than it needs to be. Before the new meters were put in some traffic could still turn right onto Cornwall but now when cars are parked up to the corner all traffic gets jammed up if someone is turning left at Cornwall. If two or three of those new meters were removed then traffic would flow more readily for those like myself who use the food merchants on Cypress. If I am not using the stores then I now use the new Burrard signal as it is much more convenient. I hope that you or the parking staff can take a closer look at those new meters and how they impact traffic.
2) I strongly sypport the traffic calming plan. Cypress is a residential street and the more they do to keep the cars off the street, the better.
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