CITY OF VANCOUVER

                        REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
                             STANDING COMMITTEE ON
                          TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC

                                MARCH  25, 1997


        A Regular Meeting of the Council of the City of Vancouver was held
   on Tuesday, March 25, 1997, at approximately 12:35 p.m., in Committee
   Room No. 1, Third Floor, City Hall, following the Standing Committee on
   Transportation and Traffic meeting, to consider the recommendations of
   the Committee.


        PRESENT:       Mayor Philip Owen
                       Councillor Nancy A. Chiavario
                       Councillor Alan Herbert
                       Councillor Lynne Kennedy
                       Councillor Daniel Lee
                       Councillor Don Lee
                       Councillor Gordon Price
                       Councillor George Puil
                       Councillor Sam Sullivan

        ABSENT:        Councillor Don Bellamy (Civic Business  - Dedication
                       of plaque in memory of Mr. Wilf Greensill killed
                       last week while at work for the City)
                       Councillor Jennifer Clarke (Leave of Absence)

        CITY MANAGER'S
        OFFICE:        Ken Dobell, City Manager
                       Dave Rudberg, General Manager, Engineering Services
                       Ted Droettboom, General Manager, Community Services

        CLERK TO THE
        COUNCIL:       Denise Salmon



   COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Chiavario,
   SECONDED by Cllr. Price,
        THAT this Council resolve itself into Committee of the Whole, Mayor
   Owen in the chair.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY




                               COMMITTEE REPORTS



   Report of Standing Committee
   on Transportation and Traffic
   March 25, 1997

        Council considered the recommendations of the Committee, as
   contained in the following clauses of the attached report:

        Cl. 1:    Policy Discussion Item - BC Transit LRT
        Cl. 2:    Maintaining Trolley Service in Vancouver
        Cl. 3:    Waterfront Pedestrian/Bicycle Pathway Widths -
             Coal Harbour, Bayshore and False Creek North Developments
        Cl. 4:    The Vancouver Trolley Company -
             Renewal of Licence Agreement



   MOVED by Cllr. Chiavario,
        THAT the recommendations of the Committee, as contained in Clauses
   1 to 4 of this report, be approved.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



   RISE FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Chiavario,
        THAT the Committee of the Whole rise and report.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



   ADOPT REPORT OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Chiavario,
   SECONDED by Cllr. Price,
        THAT the report of the Committee of the Whole be adopted.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



                          ENQUIRIES AND OTHER MATTERS

   1.   Leave of Absence  - Councillor Bellamy                 File: 1251-1

   MOVED by Cllr. Chiavario,
   SECONDED by Cllr. Herbert,
        THAT Councillor Bellamy be granted Leave of Absence for the
   scheduled March 25, 1997, evening Public Hearing to enable him to attend
   a meeting of the PNE Board.



                      The Council adjourned at 12:40 p.m.


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                               REPORT TO COUNCIL

                         STANDING COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL
                         ON TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC

                               MARCH  25,  1997


        A Regular Meeting of the Standing Committee of Council on
   Transportation and Traffic was held on Tuesday, March 25, 1997, at
   approximately 9:30 a.m., in the No. 1 Committee Room, Third Floor, City
   Hall.


        PRESENT:       Mayor Philip Owen
                       Councillor Don Bellamy (for part of Clause 1 then
                       Civic Business)
                       Councillor Nancy A. Chiavario
                       Councillor Alan Herbert
                       Councillor Lynne Kennedy
                       Councillor Daniel Lee
                       Councillor Don Lee
                       Councillor Gordon Price
                       Councillor George Puil
                       Councillor Sam Sullivan

        ABSENT:        Councillor Jennifer Clarke (Leave of Absence) 


        CITY MANAGER'S
        OFFICE:        Ken Dobell, City Manager
                       Dave Rudberg, General Manager, Engineering Services
                       Ted Droettboom, General Manager, Community Services

        CLERK TO THE
        COMMITTEE:          Denise Salmon 






   RECOMMENDATION

   1.   Policy Discussion Item - BC Transit LRT                File: 5560-1

        The Committee had before it a memorandum dated March 18, 1997 (on
   file), in which the General Manager of Engineering Services responded to
   Council direction of March 11th, to provide an outstanding list of
   Council requests for conventional transit service.

        Mr. Derrek Corrigan, Chair, BC Transit, presented Council with a
   brief overview of Transit s new public consultation process, including a
   LRT video which introduces the concept of light rail transit.  Transit s
   Ten-Year Plan\LRT presentation schedule and video distribution report
   (on file) were provided to Council at the meeting. 

        The video noted Vancouver s transportation system is one of the
   best integrated systems in the world, combining SeaBus, SkyTrain, West
   Coast Express, electric trolleys, clean air articulated buses and
   specialized vehicles.  In 2005 LRT will be added.  The route will follow
   the Broadway, Lougheed and Coquitlam corridors and link several town
   centres.  In 2008 an extension is planned to New Westminster, with
   SkyTrain connection to West Coast Express and RapidBus to Richmond via
   Granville.

        Mr. Doug Hino, Director, Capital Projects, BC Transit, referred to
   three consultant studies completed in 1994, and noted Transit is
   currently working with the Province and G.V.R.D. on governance
   agreements.  After sign off from the Province work will commence on the
   engineering and planning phase of the project.  This detailed two-year
   work plan will take into consideration alignment, station locations,
   ground conditions, underground services, contaminated sites and property
   issues.  The final document will then be submitted to the appointed
   steering committee for presentation to the G.V.R.D. and Province for go
   ahead on the LRT implementation phase.

        Ms. Karen Leitch, Director of Communications, BC Transit discussed
   the public consultation process to date and referenced the video
   distribution work plan.  She noted three community liaison offices have
   been set up at Broadway and Granville, Commercial and Lougheed Mall.
   Schools, neighbourhood associations, and adjacent municipal governments
   have also had presentations on Transit s Ten-Year Plan and LRT.

        In response to a questions from Council, Mr. Corrigan advised:

            It is intended the public process be a joint effort of
             the transit team and each municipality;
            There are currently no plans for narrowing sidewalks
             along the Broadway LRT corridor,
            Opportunities exist for creative developments, including
             tying transit into the False Creek ferry system; however
             a commitment on resources and agreement of the Province
             and municipalities is needed;
            Decisions on the city s utilities would be an important
             part of the consultation process;
            Stops were originally planned at half mile spacing along
             Broadway, but a quarter mile is now under consideration,
             although this would slow travel times;
            Studies indicate the system s electronic control signals
             and at-grade crossings help speed traffic movement; and
            The need to consider potential off-street parking sites
             for business affected along the route.


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    (Councillor Bellamy left the meeting at this point in the proceedings.)

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        Commissioner Laura McDiarmid, Park Board, made reference to the
   Board s proposed jitney service and its anticipated connection to
   Transit s proposed West End Loop service.

        Trustee Sandy McCormick, School Board, advised the city s original
   streetcar network was killed in the 1950s  rails to rubber  movement. 
   She noted the City s largest land owner is not particularly interested
   in bringing a transit system downtown, but rather to students, night
   school attendees and employees moving between neighbourhoods.  She
   suggested shuttle buses to serve residential neighbourhoods, and
   indicated a desire to continue this dialogue with the City and BC
   Transit.

        Mr. Nathan Davidowicz, speaker, noted a number of requested transit
   items still outstanding since 1986, including a First Avenue bus route,
   West End fare zone, and Marpole service.  He advised an improved bus
   service to connect to the proposed LRT was needed.   He suggested more
   articulated and double decker buses with frequent service would help
   make the system work.

        Mr. Don Buchanan, speaker, commented on the computer rendering of
   the Broadway corner bulges, and the good pedestrian environment
   portrayed. He was encouraged by the public consultation process -- and
   suggested Council and staff involve the public in the design process,
   especially seeking their thoughts on important design criteria for
   people at street level along Broadway.  Mr. Buchanan also urged the LRT
   terminus be extended to Arbutus, which is an important link to the
   Arbutus rail right-of-way and nearby Carling Brewery Lands development. 
   He also noted the importance of maintaining local bus service along
   Broadway.

        Mr. Corrigan advised the Granville terminus is open to discussion,
   and significant additional costs would not be added by extending the
   line to Arbutus.  It is intended to move trolleys off Broadway to other
   areas of the transit system, but the idea of alternative buses would not
   be prohibited.  Mr. Corrigan advised of his availability for  further
   discussion on this matter.

        The following motion by Councillor Chiavario was put and carried. 
   The Committee, therefore,

   RECOMMENDED

        THAT BC Transit s LRT presentation and the General Manager of
        Engineering Service s memorandum dated March 18, 1997,
        regarding outstanding Council requests for conventional
        transit service be received for information.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



   2.   Maintaining Trolley Service in Vancouver               File: 5551-1

        The Committee had before it an Administrative Report dated March
   17, 1997 (on file), in which the General Manager of Engineering Services
   provided information on the status of the BC Transit trolley fleet, and
   recommended a new generation of trolleys be purchased to replace the
   existing fleet.

        Mr. Derek Corrigan, Chair, BC Transit, was unable to be present for
   this item, and therefore provided his comments during the foregoing
   discussion.  He advised BC Transit is committed to the trolley system.  
   It is one of the best technologies in North America, environmentally
   friendly and adds character to the city.  He did note however, that
   potential new technology must also be considered.    Mr. Corrigan
   further noted no decision will be made on new trolleys until the year
   2000, and his staff have been requested to look into tagging onto orders
   from other cities. A bulk order was not possible due to funding
   uncertainties.

        Mr. Shaugn Schwartz, Transit Users Group (brief filed), urged
   Council support acquisition of replacement trolley vehicles and urged BC
   Transit continue should its research of quiet alternatively fuelled
   vehicles to replace diesel buses in Vancouver.  He noted the following
   initiatives the City could implement to help maintain the electric
   trolley system:

            Designate transit priority streets along trolley routes;
            Return Robson Street to a bus mall between Howe and Hornby;
            Develop trolley iconography by consciously using and
             encouraging use of the trolley image on City
             documentation and by the private sector.

   and also recommended the City request BC Transit to undertake the
   following transit initiatives:

            Order 40 new trolleys immediately;
            Consider the appropriate expansion of trolley service; and
            Develop a long-term vision for trolley service.

        In reference to making Robson a bus mall between Howe and Hornby, a
   Council member noted the merchants would prefer this be left open. 
   However, at the request of  Council members, Engineering Staff agreed to
   examine prohibiting right turns on Howe, access to Eaton s parking
   garage and the Howe\Robson\Hornby intersections, for  report back to the
   next meeting of the Committee.

        Mr. Don Buchanan, B.E.S.T., agreed the traffic situation at Howe
   and Robson needed resolution.  He urged Council to consider promoting
   trolleys as part of the city s image.  It was further noted that
   although diesels are being substituted for trolley busses to ease
   traffic congestion, and allow freer movement along some downtown routes, 
   the diesels are rarely able to divert due to traffic congestion.

        The following motion by Councillor Chiavario was put and carried. 
   The Committee, therefore,

   RECOMMENDED

        A.   THAT in the absence of proven alternate fuel technology,
             BC Transit, while conducting their review process for new
             technologies, including European technology, acquire
             replacement trolley vehicles to both maintain and augment
             transit service on existing routes in Vancouver.

        B.   THAT BC Transit continue its research of quiet,
             alternatively fuelled vehicles, for consideration on new
             routes and express service applications in Vancouver,
             with the understanding Council s preference is an
             expanded trolley system where feasible.

        C.   THAT BC Transit be requested to come back to Committee to
             discuss specifically the change over from trolley to
             diesel buses on certain city routes due to traffic
             problems.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY

          (Mayor Owen and Councillor Puil not present for the vote.)



   3.   Waterfront Pedestrian/Bicycle Pathway Widths -        File: 5553-1/
        Coal Harbour, Bayshore and False Creek                     8007-25/
        North Developments                                          8010-4 

        The Committee had before it an Administrative Report dated February
   28, 1997 (on file), in which the General Manager of Engineering
   Services, in consultation with the Director of Planning and General
   Manager of Parks & Recreation reported on pedestrian/bicycle widths for
   the waterfront pathways in the Coal Harbour, Bayshore and False Creek
   North developments, and recommended revised pedestrian and bicycle
   pathway widths for the Quayside Neighbourhood, Beach Neighbourhood,
   Bayshore and Coal Harbour developments.

        Ms. Sheri Plewes, Project and Community Liaison Engineering,
   provided a brief overview of the report.  Discussion ensued on
   accommodating roller bladders, the need for clearer definition of
   bicycle and pedestrian paths and possible conflicts with pedestrian
   cross-overs.  It was also noted the Federal Fisheries Department is
   unwilling to allow additional fill to widen paths adjacent the water s
   edge.  Ms. Plewes further indicated there are no plans to reduce the
   median, as it allows for benches, landscaping and promotion of healthy
   large trees.  It was also noted Engineering Services is responsible for
   litter collection and the Park Board for upkeep of landscaping.

        The following motion by Mayor Owen was put and carried.  The
   Committee, therefore,

   RECOMMENDED

        THAT the widths of pedestrian and bicycle pathways in Coal
        Harbour, Bayshore and False Creek North be revised as
        described in the Administrative Report dated February 28,
        1997, and as shown in Appendices B, C and D attached thereto.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



   4.   The Vancouver Trolley Company -                        File: 1203-1
        Renewal of License Agreement

        The Committee had before it an Administrative Report dated March
   11, 1997 (on file), in which the General Manager of Engineering Services
   recommended approval of a five year license agreement with The Vancouver
   Trolley Company.

        Mr. Ian Adam, Assistant City Engineer, Transportation, provided a
   brief  review of placement of the Company s kiosk, installation of
   identification signs, operational concerns and proposed route changes.

        Mr. Jim Storie, President, The Vancouver Trolley Company, advised
   he was in agreement with the report.

        The following motion by Councillor Chiavario was put and carried. 
   The Committee, therefore,

   RECOMMENDED

        A.   THAT Council approve a five-year licence agreement
             between the City of Vancouver and the Vancouver Trolley
             Company (1996) Ltd. permitting the Company to operate a
             sightseeing tour bus enterprise in the City of Vancouver.

        B.   THAT Council authorize the General Manager of Engineering
             Services to negotiate and conclude a licence agreement
             with the Company on the terms and conditions set out in
             the Administrative Report dated March 11, 1997, and
             others satisfactory to the General Manager and the
             Director of Legal Services, it being understood that no
             legal relations are created and none shall arise until an
             agreement drawn to the satisfaction of the Director of
             Legal Services is executed by her on behalf of the City.

                                                      - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


                      The meeting adjourned at 12:35 p.m.

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