CITY OF VANCOUVER

                        SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES

                  MARCH 25, 1997/APRIL 8, 1997/APRIL 28, 1997


        A Special Meeting of the Council of the City of Vancouver was held
   on Tuesday, March 25, 1997, at 7:30 p.m., in the Council Chamber, Third
   Floor, City Hall, for the purpose of holding a Public Hearing to
   consider proposed amendments to the Zoning and Development By-law.

        Subsequently, a second meeting was held on Tuesday, April 8, 1997,
   at 7:30 p.m., to continue with Item No. 1, Rezoning: 3062-3188 West 41st
   Avenue, and to consider Item No. 3, Text Amendment and Area Rezoning:
   RT-4/4N and RT-5/5N Districts - One- and Two-
   Family Dwellings.

        A third meeting was held on Monday, April 28, 1997, at 7:30 p.m.,
   to complete Item No. 1.  These minutes represent a consolidated version
   of the three meetings.


   March 25, 1997

        PRESENT:            Mayor Philip Owen
                            Councillor Alan Herbert
                            Councillor Lynne Kennedy
                            Councillor Daniel Lee
                            Councillor Don Lee
                            Councillor Gordon Price
                            Councillor George Puil
                            Councillor Sam Sullivan

        ABSENT:             Councillor Don Bellamy (Leave of Absence) 
        Councillor Nancy A. Chiavario (Leave of Absence)
                            Councillor Jennifer Clarke (Leave of Absence)

   April 8, 1997

        PRESENT:            Mayor Philip Owen
                            Councillor Don Bellamy (Item 3 only)
                            Councillor Nancy A. Chiavario (Item 3 only) 
                            Councillor Alan Herbert
                            Councillor Lynne Kennedy
                            Councillor Daniel Lee
                            Councillor Don Lee
                            Councillor Gordon Price
                            Councillor George Puil
                            Councillor Sam Sullivan

        ABSENT:             Councillor Jennifer Clarke


   April 28, 1997

        PRESENT:            Mayor Philip Owen
                            Councillor Alan Herbert
                            Councillor Lynne Kennedy
                            Councillor Daniel Lee
                            Councillor Don Lee
                            Councillor Gordon Price
                            Councillor George Puil
                            Councillor Sam Sullivan

        ABSENT:             Councillor Don Bellamy
                            Councillor Nancy A. Chiavario
                            Councillor Jennifer Clarke

        CLERK TO THE
        COUNCIL:            Tarja Tuominen


   COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Don Lee ,
   SECONDED by Cllr. Price,
        THAT this Council resolve itself into Committee of the Whole, Mayor
   Owen in the Chair, to consider proposed amendments to the Zoning and
   Development By-law.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


   Vary Order of the Agenda

        The Mayor advised Items No. 2 and 4 had no speakers registered for
   either application, and therefore Council would consider them first on
   the agenda.


   2.   CD-1 Text Amendment and Rezoning:
        2940-2970 East 22nd Avenue (Three Links Care Facility)

        An application by Buttjes and Gordon Architects, was considered as
   follows:

        Summary: The proposed text amendment and rezoning from C-1
        Commercial District to CD-1 Comprehensive Development District
        would permit the expansion of an existing care facility to provide
        multi-level care to an additional 26 residential rooms, and to
        include space at grade for retail, health care office, service and
        adult day care uses.  An additional 18 parking spaces are proposed. 
        A small addition is also proposed at the entrance to the existing
        building to increase dining and lounge areas.  Maximum density
        would be 1.50 FSR.

        The Director of Land Use and Development recommended approval of
   the application, subject to the following conditions as proposed for
   adoption by resolution of Council:

   (a)  THAT the proposed form of development be approved by Council in
        principle, generally as prepared by Buttjes and Gordon Architects,
        and stamped "Received City Planning Department, September 17,
        1996", provided that the Director of Planning may allow minor
        alterations to this form of development when approving the detailed
        scheme of development as outlined in (b) below.

   (b)  THAT, prior to approval by Council of the form of development, the
        applicant shall obtain approval of a development application by the
        Director of Planning, who shall have particular regard to the
        following:

        (i)  design development to improve the relationship of the massing
             and treatment of the north entrance addition to the existing
             building;

        (ii) design development to improve the relationship of the new
             addition to the existing building through the treatment of
             materials and massing;

        (iii)     design development to bring the storefront glazing to the
                  property line;

        (iv) design development to provide details for the adult day care
             facility, such as the location of washrooms, kitchen, etc.;

        (v)  design development through submission of a comprehensive
             landscape plan for the entire facility, to address the
             following:

             -    softening the existing parking access off East 22nd
                  Avenue, through landscaping and surface treatment;
             -    provide street furniture in the setback of the existing
                  building, where feasible;
             -    improve the transition between the surface parking on the
                  lane and building through landscape treatments while
                  ensuring open sightlines; and
             -    relocation (with a tree spade) of trees on the site of
                  the proposed lounge/dining addition to a new permanent
                  location adjacent to the addition; (Note: Photographs
                  reveal these trees [three Blue Spruce and one Cherry,
                  approximately 6.0-7.6 m (20-25 ft.) high] to be in
                  excellent condition.)

        (vi) design development to reduce opportunities for theft in the
             underground parking area.

             (Note to Applicant: The open exit stair at the rear will
             create an opportunity for easy access to the underground as
             well as creating an opportunity for mischief.  These stairs
             should be relocated with a flush door on the outside of the
             building.  Design of the underground parking in accordance
             with section 4.12 of the Parking By-law and painting the
             walls, ceilings and utility pipes white.)

   (c)  THAT, prior to enactment of the CD-1 By-law, the registered owner
        shall, at no cost to the City:

        (i)  consolidate Lots 1, 5 and 6, Section 48 NW¨, Plans 18185 and
             7436; and

        (ii) make arrangements for all new electrical and telephone
             services to be undergrounded within and adjacent the site from
             the closest existing suitable service point.

        Lynda Challis, Planner, advised staff support the application.  The
   location is well served by transit and will increase the number of
   multi-level care beds available in the neighbourhood.  The proposal also
   includes an increase in density to 1.25 and an increase in height.  A
   small addition is proposed to increase dining and lounge areas.  A
   comprehensive landscape plan is recommended as a condition of approval.

   Applicant Opening Comments

        The applicant offered no comments on this application.

   Summary of Correspondence

        There was no correspondence received on this application.

   Speakers

        Mayor Owen called for speakers for and against the application, and
   none were present.


   MOVED by Cllr. Puil,
        THAT the application be approved, subject to the conditions as set
   out in this minute of the Public Hearing.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


   4.   CD-1 Text Amendment: 572 Beatty Street
        International Village (CD-1 By-law No. 6747)

        An application by the Director of Land Use and Development was
   considered as follows:

        Summary: The proposed amendment would:

            delete the maximum permitted tower width;
            delete the minimum street edge height requirements;
            increase the permitted tower height in Sub-Area 4; and
            correct wording pertaining to residential parking
             requirements.

        The Director of Central Area Planning recommended approval of the
   application.

   Staff Opening Comments

        Mike Kemble, Planner, advised the purpose of the proposed
   application is two-fold: to clear up inconsistencies between the
   previously adopted International Village CD-1 By-law and the
   International Village CD-1 Guidelines; and to revise parking standards. 
   The proposed amendment will delete the maximum permitted tower width and
   increase tower height.  The increase in height will not impact on public
   views or shadowing.  The revised parking standards will   correctly
   reflect the wording for parking requirements as approved at a Public
   hearing on December 14, 1995.  
   Summary of Correspondence

        There was no correspondence received on this application.

   Speakers

        Mayor Owen called for speakers for and against the application, and
   none were present.

   MOVED by Cllr. Puil,
        THAT the application be approved.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


   1.   Rezoning: 3062-3188 West 41st Avenue

        An application by Neale Staniszkis Doll Adams, Architects, was
   considered as follows:

        Summary: The proposed rezoning from RT-2 Two-Family dwelling
        District to CD-1 Comprehensive Development District would permit
        the development of two 3-1/2 storey multiple dwellings with 58
        units for households in which at least one resident would be 55
        years of age or older.  Twenty-one of these units would have direct
        grade-level access.  Maximum density would be 1.25 FSR.

        The Director of Land Use and Development recommended approval of
   the application, subject to the following conditions as proposed for
   adoption by resolution of Council:

   (a)  THAT the proposed form of development be approved by Council in
        principle, generally as prepared by Neale Staniszkis Doll Adams,
        Architects; and stamped "Received City Planning Department,
        August 15, 1996", provided that the Director of Planning may allow
        minor alterations to this form of development when approving the
        detailed scheme of development as outlined in (b) below.

   (b)  THAT, prior to approval by Council of the form of development, the
        applicant shall obtain approval of a development application by the
        Director of Planning, who shall have particular regard to the
        following design developments:
    
        (i)  to reduce the scale of the south face of the buildings to
             minimize overlook and improve the scale relationship with
             single-family homes across the lane.  The design should be
             refined to read more substantially as a three storey building
             from the south.

             This could be accomplished by bringing the eave line down to
             the third floor along more of the facade, by reducing the
             extent of development on the fourth floor, and by pulling the
             face of units on the top floor further into the mass of the
             building.  It should be noted that the most conspicuous scale
             discrepancy occurs at the western ends of the buildings as the
             grade drops along the lane.  In particular, the west end of
             the eastern building presents the most extreme circumstance. 
             Consideration should be given to breaking the floor plates at
             these points, to enable the building to more closely follow
             the existing topography;

        (ii) to reduce the perceived length of the development along West
             41st Avenue by breaking the buildings into more distinct
             masses, and by providing more substantial differences in the
             architectural expression of the four main masses of building;

        (iii)     to prevent parking on the proposed laneside walkway by
                  providing a raised, structured planting area between the
                  lane and the walk, as well as considering the provision
                  of lighting along the walk;

        (iv) to reduce opportunities for theft in the underground parking
             areas;

             (NOTE: Open exit stairs provide easy access to underground
             parking areas when they are visually accessible to
             non-residents.  These exit stairs should be relocated within
             the building envelope, with only the door exposed, or open
             exit stairs can be located in the semi-private open space
             where they can be watched  by  residents.  The  underground 
             parking  appears  ungated  at the parking entrance which will
             become an opportunity for theft.  This should be gated at the
             street with consideration to providing electronic
             communication to residents.  The separate gating of townhouse
             parking has shown to improve security from theft in the
             underground and is considered positive.)

        (v)  to reduce fear in underground parking in accordance with
             Section 4.12 of the Parking By-law and give consideration to
             painting the parking garage white;             (NOTE: The openness and design of the elevator lobbies in the
             underground is considered very positive.) 

        (vi) in concurrence with the Arborist report and the Landscape
             proposal, six existing trees are to be relocated;

             (NOTE: Particular attention should be placed on the successful
             relocation of the 20 inch caliper Redwood, as noted in the
             Arborist report as "A beautiful specimen in superb condition. 
             This specimen is worth serious efforts to retain or
             relocate".)

        (vii)     provide low planting in front of the proposed fence along
                  West 41st Avenue; and

        (viii)    to improve defensibility and reduce opportunities for
                  break and enter and nuisance on residential entrances and
                  yards on the lane.

             (NOTE: Ground level units both facing streets and semi-private
             open space have shown to be most susceptible to break and
             enter.  Opportunities for break and enter can be reduced by
             deleting areas of concealment outside of doors, windows and
             patios and encouraging surveillance by other residents and
             people  passing  by  to  these units.  Semi-private open space
             should be secured from access by non-residents while remaining
             visually open.  Opportunity can also be reduced by routing
             exits from the underground directly outside rather than into
             the residential lobby (in coordination with the Fire
             Department); and

        (ix) to endeavour to reduce the maximum height of buildings at the
             westerly end of each structure to a maximum height of 11 m (36
             ft.).

   (c)  THAT, prior to enactment of the CD-1 By-law, the registered owner
        shall:

        (i)  consolidate Lots 1, 2, 3, East ´ of Lot 4, West ´ of Lot 4,
             and Lot 5, Plan 1987, and Lot A of Lots 6 and 7, Plan 5869,
             all of Blocks 1 to 3, DL 321;

        (ii) make arrangements to the satisfaction of the General Manager
             of Engineering Services for the following:

             -    the dedication of the north 17 ft. of lots 5 and W ´ of
                  lot 4 (plan 1987) and lot A (plan 5869), for road
                  purposes;

             -    the dedication of the south 10 ft. of lot 5 (plan 1987),
                  for lane purposes;

             -    the opening and paving of a portion of the lane south of
                  West 41st Avenue from Carnarvon Street to the west to
                  provide improved access to the site [approximately 76.2 m
                  (250 ft.)].  This requires the preparation and
                  registration of a lane drainage agreement;

             -    the provision of street trees on West 41st Avenue and on
                  Balaclava where possible;

             -    all electrical and telephone services to be underground
                  within, and adjacent the site from the closest, existing
                  suitable service point; and

        (iii)     execute an agreement to the satisfaction of the Director
                  of Legal Services and the Manager of the Housing Centre
                  restricting sales to a single person at least 55 years of
                  age and to no more than two people, at least one of whom
                  is at least 55 years of age, to be registered in priority
                  over all charges which may defeat or delay the agreement.

   Staff Opening Comments

        Tom Phipps, Planner, reviewed the application to develop a 58-unit
   building on a 1.2 acre site on the south side of West 41st Avenue. 
   Carnarvon Street is located to the west, Crofton House to the west,
   Kerrisdale Elementary School to the north, and residential to the south. 
   The residential lots to the south are deeper than average offering
   separation from the proposed development.  The area has been  zoned RT-2
   since 1956, and although  townhouses are possible in the RT-2 zoning,
   townhouse or  duplex development is very unlikely in the area because of
   high land costs.  The development  offers to accommodate  a larger
   number of residents than a townhouse development, but will have to fit
   in the surrounding scale.  The building will be well served by transit. 
   The proposal also serves existing regional policies to provide ground
   oriented housing .

        Views are not an issue.  However, neighbours have raised several
   concerns, including:  lack of an area planning study; traffic impacts
   and shortcutting; and overlooking into rear yards.  Staff are
   sympathetic to the concern for the need to have a planning study as the
   development may set off other rezoning applications; however a policy is
   in place to actively discourage other rezonings. A traffic impact
   assessment has shown the development will cause very little peak hour
   increases.  Staff recommend a significant reduction in massing in the
   rear  and overall density to reduce the concern with overlooking into
   rear yards.

   Applicant Opening Comments

        Linda Moore, applicant, advised she is the development consultant
   for Balaclava Mews, 3062-3188 West 41st Avenue.  The elderly area
   residents approached her to discuss redeveloping their properties in the
   3000-3100 Blocks of West 41st to build seniors housing.  Her role has
   been one of facilitating the public consultation process.  Neighbours
   have raised objections to the proposal because of traffic and parking
   concerns.

        Ms. Moore referred to a Record of Public Consultation dated August
   14, 1996 (on file), which summarized the public consultation program for
   Balaclava Mews from January to August 1996.  The  program included  a
   public open  house in  May, and  an information meeting held in early
   June. The revised scheme reflects a fair compromise to the concerns
   raised  as a result of the public consultation and the conditions of
   approval will continue to refine the proposal.  Some of the revisions
   include: a reduction in density to 1.25; access to the underground
   parking will be at Carnarvon Street; the roof will be pitched, the eaves
   dropped and the development will be reminiscent of the larger
   Craftsman-style of the area; ground oriented units will be offered. The
   development will benefit and fill the needs of the community and not
   detract from it.

        In response to a question on the projected price of the units, Ms.
   Moore advised the prices are targeted at $170,000 to $350,000.

        Brian Wallace, N.D. Lea & Associates, advised preliminary estimates
   showed the development should provide close to 1.2 parking spaces per
   unit; the applicant will be providing 1.4 spaces and 10 visitors parking
   spaces.

   Summary of Correspondence

        A review of the correspondence on this application indicated the
   following:

            covering letter enclosing 68 letters in support;
            47 letters in support;
            4 letters expressing concerns with the proposed rezoning;
            22 letters opposing the rezoning application.

   Speakers

        Mayor Owen called for speakers for and against the application. 
   Council heard from 18 speakers on March 25, 1997, before adjourning to
   reconvene on April 8, 1997.  For the purposes of clarity, speakers'
   comments are consolidated in the next section of the minute.

   MOVED by Cllr Puil,
        THAT the Public Hearing adjourn to be reconvened on Tuesday, April
   8, 1997, at 7:30 p.m. in Council Chamber, to hear the remainder of
   speakers.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


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                  The Special Council adjourned at 10:00 p.m.

                                 *  *  *  *  *


        The Special Council reconvened on Tuesday, April 8, 1997, at 7:30
   p.m., in the Council Chamber, Third Floor, Vancouver City Hall, to
   continue to hold a Public Hearing to consider proposed amendments to the
   Zoning and Development By-law with the same members present, and the
   addition of Councillors Bellamy and Chiavario for Item 3 only.


   Vary Order of Agenda

        The Mayor advised 12 speakers were registered to speak on Item No.
   3, and 26 speakers  registered for Item No. 1.  The Mayor also noted as
   Item No. 1 had  26 registered speakers, it may not be concluded this
   evening.

   MOVED by Cllr. Kennedy,
        THAT the agenda be varied to consider Item No. 3 prior to
   continuing with Item No. 1.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


   3.   Text Amendment and Area Rezoning:
        RT-4/4N and RT-5/5N Districts (One and Two Family Dwellings)

        An application by the Director of Land Use and Development was
   considered as follows:

        Summary: The proposed text amendment to the RT-4/4N and RT-5/5N
        Districts Schedules would make one and two-family dwellings
        conditional approval uses in the following areas:

            Grandview-Woodland RT-4 and RT-5/5N area;
            Mont Pleasant RT-5 area;
            Cedar Cottage West RT-5/5N area;
            Cambie RT-5 area; and
            Burrard RT-5 area.

        The proposed text amendment would also create new RT-4A/AN and
        RT-5A/AN Districts Schedules to keep these uses outright, and the
        proposed area rezoning would apply to two areas as follows:

            Joyce RT-4/4N area to RT-4A/AN; and
            Cedar Cottage East RT-5/5N area to RT-5A/AN.

        The Director of Community Planning recommended approval of the
   application, subject to the following conditions as proposed for
   adoption by resolution of Council:

        THAT, if approved at Public Hearing, the by-law be accompanied at
        the time of enactment by:

        (i)  the "RT-4/RT-4N, RT-5, RT-5N and RT-6 Guidelines" to be
             amended by resolution of Council to reflect the Districts
             Schedules changes.

   Staff Opening Comments

        Trish French, Planner, advised most of the areas affected by the
   proposed amendments  are located in the east side of the city, with some
   small pockets located in the west side.  The RT-4A/4AN and RT-5A/5AN
   Districts are new labels for those areas which  will have no changes -
   to keep one- and two-family dwellings outright.  In the proposed RT-4/4N
   and RT-5/5N  areas, an annual average of 13 developments go through the
   development permit process as outright, and approximately seven in the
   RT5/5N areas are conditional.

        Staff have received some complaints from residents about dwellings
   which are extra long, have minimal rear yard requirements, and are
   unattractive architecturally.  All renters, owner- occupiers and
   absentee landlords were surveyed on making the one- and two-family
   developments conditional and subject to existing design guidelines.  The
   response was between 26 to 30%, with occupier and absentee owners 56 to
   73% in favour.

        Other major changes proposed by the amendments will affect the
   architectural character of the buildings, such as pitched roofs, wood
   siding,  and window treatment.   The permit processing time and fees
   will be increased.  However, the amendments will address the main
   concerns raised about the existing built form of the dwellings.

   Summary of Correspondence

        A review of the correspondence on this application indicated the
   following:

        -    two (2) letters in support.
        -    one (1) petition containing 62 signatures in support.
            one (1) letter expressing concern with having his building
             permit application put on hold pending the Public Hearing.
            one (1) letter enclosing a petition containing 25 names in
             support of the application.

   Speakers

        Mayor Owen called for speakers for and against the application.


        The following speakers supported the application:

            Arno Schmidt
            Simon Royle
            Eric Teevens
            Richard Green.

        The foregoing supported the application based on one or more of the
   following reasons:

            The proposed text amendment will enhance the quality and
             character of the housing stock in the Grandview-Woodlands
             area, which is one of the older areas in Vancouver;

            The amendment will encourage the retention of the older
             housing stock, and thereby address an important ecological
             issue - to encourage the recycling of buildings and building
             materials, such as baseboards and moldings ;

            The amendment will encourage preservation of the old style of
             buildings and encourage residents to take pride in the
             preservation of heritage.

        Hazen Sise, a resident in the Grandview Woodlands area, generally
   supported the application, but raised several concerns.  Mr. Sise
   pleaded for some mechanism in the proposed zoning amendment to allow for
   more leeway on design issues and relaxations for atypical situations,
   such as setbacks and rear yard restrictions .  Mr. Sise cited problems
   in trying to remodel his house and requested that his property be
   exempted from the RT-4 zoning and given RT-4A zoning.  Houses not
   incorporating the stylistic elements of the neighbourhood are not
   necessarily ugly. The area has a mix of houses from all eras; all are a
   product of their time.  Mr. Sise asked for greater latitude for
   diversity and innovation.

   Staff Closing Comments

        Trish French advised a certain amount of flexibility is built into
   the guidelines and any issues may be resolved within the development
   permit review.  The only other alternative is to go before the Board of
   Variance.

   MOVED by Cllr. Bellamy,
        THAT the application be approved, subject to the condition as set
   out in this minute of the Public Hearing.

                                                - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


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       (Councillors Bellamy and Chiavario left the Public Hearing at the
   conclusion of
      Item No. 3 and were not present for the continuation of Item No. 1)

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        The following speakers spoke in favour of the application before
   Council:

            Dr. Josephine Mallek
            Maurice Spanza (photographs filed)
            Louise McGregor
            Iona Douglas            Bill Higgins
            Alan Artibise
            Barbara Hanson
            Joan Johnston
            Dexter Pettigrew
            Mary Hardy
            Ken Mayhew (brief filed)
            Elizabeth Ballard Nightingale
            Michael Flamer, on behalf of Rea Flamer
            Ken Rowley.

        The foregoing supported the application based on one or more of the
   following reasons:

            the Advisory Committee of Council on Seniors unanimously
             approved the proposal and are anxious to see the project go
             ahead; the development will provide suitable affordable
             housing for seniors who have lived in the area for years but
             now are living alone in their home and have become  persons at
             risk; currently, there is no accommodation for them to go to;

            the development will address an important community need;

            already an increase in density occurring in the area; houses
             on West 42nd Avenue across from proposed development
             (photographs refer) are developed with large double garages,
             no grass or trees; where once had 4 houses, now have 7;

            the proposed development will be well built and will include
             wider doorways, easy access, good lighting; 

            wanted to stay in immediate neighbourhood, but unable to find
             any other senior's housing in the area;

            if senior's housing is not build in Kerrisdale, where will it
             be built; 

            the West 41st Avenue Property Owners Group is committed to the
             best for themselves, but are also concerned about the needs
             and quality of life for their peers in the area; 

            need to provide a larger amount of housing for seniors in the
             area;

            the neighbourhood is self-contained; shops are easily reached
             by walking or transit; 

            the project is a way to reduce traffic; the seniors are
             creating their own solution and part of a long-term solution;
             the project will be build on a main arterial, close to
             transit, shops and services, a basic concept of City Plan;

            the project is a responsible approach, providing medium
             density housing with some ground oriented units;

            a lot of long-time Kerrisdale residents hope the project will
             be approved; they don't want to move to White Rock or
             Richmond, and don't want to have to drive everywhere;

            need to have some places with higher density to accommodate an
             increasing number of seniors;

            there are many Kerrisdale homeowners who could benefit from
             such a development;

            a single family home is expensive to maintain; looking for
             senior's accommodation, and choices in accommodation which
             offer safety for older people;

            the proposed complex will have security and a caretaker;

            transportation is nearby;  as far as the traffic problem, the
             traffic is there already;  seniors don't clutter up the
             highways and avoid driving in high density times;

            the Kerrisdale/Dunbar community has one of the highest density
             populations of seniors in the city, but has no affordable and
             senior oriented retirement housing;

            41st Avenue is not primarily a single family residential
             avenue; within the 14 blocks between Dunbar and West
             Boulevard, only four of the blocks, on either side of 41st
             Avenue, are exclusively single family residences; in addition,
             there are 4-storey apartments on 41st Avenue at Maple Street;

            important to respect seniors' wishes to remain in the
             community; it is society's tendency to push seniors out of the
             way to suburbs;

            continuity and predictability  become very important to
             seniors.

        The following speakers opposed the application:

            Allison Murray
            Jim Stewart
            Laurie Grant
            Paul Yue
            Jim Skelton
            Bruce Arbo
            Maxwell Anderson
            Ruth Freeman
            Marcia Chi
            Jane Grant
            Zayed Gamiet
            Johanna Albrecht
            Mrs. Clark Binkley
            Kim Richards
            Dara MacGowan
            Lee Higinbotham
            Ian Stewart
            Bryan Kynoch
            Agneta Wright
            Jim Diggins
            Harry Gray
            Pat Fulton
            Sammy Su
            Jim Lehto (brief filed)
            Anne Rowland
            Peter Wright
            Marlene Allen
            Steven Khan
            Bruce Stuart (brief filed)
            James Dodds
            Tony Ryan (petition filed)
            Jenny So.

        The foregoing opposed the application based on one or more of the
   following reasons:

            the density and height suggested for the development  will
             change the character of the area;

            the current RT-2 zoning would allow townhouse development;

            a two-storey building, with 20 units, would be more in keeping
             with the neighbourhood;

            although agree need more senior's housing, a 58-unit
             development contains too many units for the neighbourhood;

            the neighbourhood is primarily composed of single detached
             homes; any development with high density should not be
             encouraged;

            the height of the proposed development will affect views;

            the height of the proposed development should be limited to
             the same height as the neighbouring detached housing or the
             height of Oak Gardens;

            a development with two storeys in the front and three at the
             back would be more appropriate for the area; the massing of 
             the proposed building is too intrusive;
    
            concerned about the magnitude of change due to the development
             as proposed; transitional development would be more
             appropriate for the location;

            another development is proposed to the east of this proposal,
             which will add an additional 33 parking stalls;

            concerned about the traffic at Carnarvon and the traffic
             patterns on West 41st Avenue;

            concerned about the access from Carnarvon; visibility would be
             better from Balaclava Street access;

            the development will add more traffic pressure and drivers
             will go through the surrounding neighbourhood, by schools, to
             try to avoid congestion;

            a traffic study completed by the applicant was done when UBC
             was not in session; a further traffic study was promised but
             the neighbourhood has not seen it;

            there are three schools in the vicinity - Kerrisdale,
             Kerrisdale Annex, and Crofton House, with approximately 1,500
             students in total, primarily of elementary school age; concern
             with students safety walking back and forth to school because
             of the already high level of traffic in the area;

            opposition to the proposed densification; the developer should
             be able to develop the project within current zoning;

            the development will be at least three times more than the
             current allowable zoning, and will be adding to the traffic;

            the mark-up of the units to market value will generate high
             profits to the developer; the developer would benefit the
             most;

            the residents should work with planners to create a better
             environment for seniors and children;

            a seniors' site should be located close to shopping, medical
             centres, services, recreational facilities and community
             centres;

            the proposed 82 parking spaces for the development falls short
             of what is required for the number of units in the
             development;

            want to see an overall community plan for the area, not
             indiscriminate changes to the character of the area;

            would like to stress a minimum 20-foot setback to accommodate
             a Kerrisdale-style of landscaping;

            the development must have extensive greenery and conform to
             RS-5 setbacks of 24 feet or more;

            the proposed 58-unit development is a large development built
             on a small property, and will eliminate valuable green space;

            all developments in the area have recognized and lived within
             the important characteristics of the community;

            the community was not properly notified of the development;
             only residents who received notice were the properties
             directly south of the proposed development; need to have a
             proper notification of the neighbourhood;

            many supporters of the proposal are from outside of the
             neighbourhood and will  not have to live with the impacts;

            request report back on revised massing envelope for multiple
             dwelling development for the site; the impact of the proposed
             development on the neighbourhood will be huge; the area is
             composed of big houses and big yards;

            the proposed development is about profits not seniors, with a
             project profit increase worth $3,440,320;

            the proposed development will set the standard for other
             development along 41st Avenue; the proposal is for a massive
             intrusive development;

            the laneway behind the development is very narrow, has poor
             visibility  and already has bottlenecks, as well as dumpsters
             backing out of it onto the street.

   Applicant Closing Comments

        Michael Geller, applicant, addressed the questions raised by the
   speakers:

            Oak Gardens was developed on four single lots and contains 43
             units; the average age of residents is 82; none of the
             concerns about traffic, change in character and inappropriate
             precedent have materialized;

            character and setbacks - sideyards are greater than those
             being suggested;

            the traffic consultants have been involved in a number of
             seniors projects, and with Crofton House and have also been
             retained by UBC to come up with a comprehensive plan to reduce
             traffic, so are familiar with the area and seniors' needs;

            the age restriction of 55 has been established by courts and 
             the Real Estate Act; it will allow a 58-year-old widow to move
             into building;

            the proposed 82 spaces for 58 homes is reasonable; an increase
             in the amount of parking will decrease the number of ground
             oriented units; the location is good, the residents will not
             need cars;

            if the number of units are reduced, the price of each unit
             will be increased; asking $76 per square foot, with the
             developer getting 15%;

            concern with overlooking - will have mews and extensive
             landscaping; planners have identified a number of conditions
             to increase the setback; will agree to plant more trees to
             lessen impact.

        Mr. Geller advised he is willing to reduce the height of the
   buildings to 35 feet and circulated a memorandum (on file) summarizing
   the applicant's requested modifications: include a caretaker's suite as
   part of the amenity area; modify the parking requirement from RM-3
   standard to 82 spaces; and make arrangements to the satisfaction of the
   Director of Legal Services to consolidate the affected properties.


   Staff Closing Comments

        Mr. Phipps noted the application has flaws with the upper storey
   massing and overlooking, but these have been resolved with the
   recommended reduction in FSR to 1.25 and change in the height to 36
   feet.  The site is located on two bus routes.  Staff do not recommend
   the caretaker suite be deducted from the FSR as that will be
   inconsistent with the practice elsewhere in the city.  Setbacks are
   greater than asked for.  The neighbours concerns about traffic are not
   attributable to the project.  It is anticipated 10 to 15 cars will be
   added to the area; this is a fairly marginal increase and would be the
   same if single family or townhouse development was approved for the
   site. Services and shopping are located nearby.  Although reluctant to
   reduce the parking requirement, staff would rather give up six parking
   spaces than have fewer ground oriented units.

        Paul Pinsker, Transportation Engineer, advised the problems along
   Carnarvon Street are existing problems related to the shortage of
   capacity along Marine Drive.  The remedy is to deal with short-cutting
   traffic, such as the upcoming West Kerrisdale traffic calming project. 
   Many developments are built on arterial routes and are doable at
   countless intersections throughout the City.  The reduction of parking
   spaces to 82 is less than a 10% reduction; every fourth unit may have a
   second car.  There is good transit service east and west, and from north
   to south.  One solution with identified concerns with garbage loading
   would be to open up the lane, however the residents want the lane
   closed.

        Bruce Maitland, Manager of Real Estate Services, advised the
   buildable rate in the west part of the City is $75 to $80/square foot
   and needs a minimum density of 1.25 FSR.  A townhouse development would
   be too expensive to build. Land is available in RM-3 zoned areas in
   Kerrisdale, however, most of that land is built with framed rental
   apartments and inhabited by seniors.


   MOVED by Cllr. Price,
        THAT the application be approved, subject to the conditions as set   out in this minute of the Public Hearing.

                                           - CARRIED

                           (Councillor Puil opposed)


   MOVED by Cllr. Kennedy,
        THAT the application be subject to the following amendments:

        1.   THAT Clause 6 of the By-law be revised to amend the parking
             requirement to 82 spaces.

        2.   THAT condition (c)(i) be amended to read:

             Make arrangements to the satisfaction of the Director of Legal
             Services to consolidate Lots, 1, 2, 3, etc.

        FURTHER THAT the development application plans be reviewed by the
   Special Advisory Committee on Seniors prior to formal approval by
   Council of the form of development.

                                           - CARRIED
   (underlining denotes amendment)

                           (Councillor Puil opposed)


   MOVED by Cllr. Sullivan,
        THAT the application be subject to the following additional
   amendments:

        3.   THAT Clause 3.3(d) of the By-law be revised to include a
             caretaker's suite as part of the amenity area.

        4.   THAT condition b(ix) be amended to allow the maximum height of
             the buildings to be kept at 12 metres (39.5 feet), unless the
             buildings can be built at a maximum height of 10.7 metres (35
             feet) without detracting from the development's amenities and
             aesthetics.

                                           - CARRIED

                           (Councillor Puil opposed)


   MOVED by Cllr. Puil,
        THAT condition (c)(iii) be amended to change the years of age from
   55 to 65.

                                           - LOST

      (Councillors Herbert, Kennedy, Daniel Lee, Don Lee, Price, Sullivan
                            and the Mayor opposed)



   RISE FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Sullivan,
        THAT the Committee of the Whole rise and report.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY



   ADOPT REPORT OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

   MOVED by Cllr. Don Lee,
   SECONDED BY Cllr Kennedy,
        THAT the report of the Committee of the Whole be adopted, and the
   Director of Legal Services be instructed to prepare and bring forward
   the necessary by-law amendments.

                                           - CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY


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        The Special Council adjourned at 10:00 p.m. on March 25, 1997,
         9:55 p.m. on April 8, 1997 and 11:15  p.m. on April 28, 1997.