CITY OF VANCOUVER


                         VANCOUVER TRAFFIC COMMISSION


                               October 19, 1995

        A Regular Meeting of  the Vancouver Traffic Commission was  held on
   Thursday,  October 19, 1995 at approximately 7:30 p.m. in Committee Room
   No. 1, Third Floor, City Hall.


        PRESENT:       Councillor Bellamy
                       Councillor Chiavario
                       Councillor Clarke
                       Councillor Sullivan

        MANAGER'S      Dave Rudberg, General Manager,
        REPRESENTATIVE:           Engineering Services


        CLERK:         Marnie Cross


   Power to Act

        On January 11, 1994, the Council, by the required majority, granted
   this Commission Power  to Act on all unanimous  decisions.  The decision
   of  the Commission contained herein was unanimous and, therefore, stands
   approved.


   Adoption of Minutes

        The  minutes  of  the   Vancouver  Traffic  Commission  meeting  of
   September 14, 1995 were adopted as circulated.

   1.   Left Turn Prohibition on Anderson Street
        at Lamey's Mill Road                    

        The Commission considered an Administrative Report dated October 3,
   1995 (on file)  in which the Engineering Department advised  a left turn
   prohibition  will be  installed  for southbound  to  eastbound turns  at
   Anderson  Street  and Lamey's  Mill  Road, noon  to  7:00 p.m.   Traffic
   conditions will continue to be monitored.

        The following motion  by Councillor Chiavario was put  and CARRIED.
   The Commission therefore

   RESOLVED

        THAT the  Administrative Report dated  October 3, 1995  be received
        for information.



   2.   Safety Improvements for the Commuter Rail
        Project "West Coast Express"             

        The Commission  considered an Administrative Report dated September
   28, 1995 (on file)  in which the General Manager,  Engineering Services,
   recommended commuter  rail-related safety  improvements at  the Victoria
   Drive  crossing, and the part-time closure of the Rogers Street crossing
   of the CP Rail tracks.   The issue of continuity of Stewart/Commissioner
   Street in  the vicinity of the  Rogers crossing will be  referred to the

   Transportation Plan process for further study,  in consultation with the
   Port of Vancouver and CP Rail.

        As well as the two crossings administered by the City of Vancouver,
   the private crossing at Dunlevy will be improved by West Coast Express.

        Messrs.  Mark Griggs,  Port of  Vancouver and  Don Heron,  CP Rail,
   responded to questions of Commission members.

        The following motions by Councillor Chiavario were put and CARRIED.
   The Commission therefore

   RESOLVED

        A.   THAT  safety  improvements  be  made  to  the  Victoria  Drive
             crossing of the CP Rail tracks, with all costs to be funded by
             West Coast Express (B.C. Transit).

        B.   THAT the closure of Rogers  Street at the CP Rail  crossing be
             approved on  a part time  basis during  morning and  afternoon
             rush  periods,  and the  eastbound  use  of  the Port  Roadway
             adjacent  to BC Sugar,  with all  costs to  be funded  by West
             Coast Express.

        C.   THAT the issue of continuity of Stewart/Commissioner Street in
             the  vicinity  of  the Rogers  crossing,  in  order  to reduce
             trucking  activity  on  City   streets,  be  referred  to  the
             Transportation Plan process for further study, and the Port of
             Vancouver  and CP  Rail  be requested  to participate  in this
             study.



   3.   Traffic Circle - 43rd and Collingwood

        As all members of Council  had received correspondence with respect
   to a  neighbourhood request of  August, 1994  for the installation  of a
   traffic circle  at the above intersection,  Commission members requested
   the General Manager, Engineering Services to provide information for the
   meeting.
   Clause 3 Continued


        A memorandum dated October  17, 1995 from Ian Adam,  Assistant City
   Engineer,  Transportation, (on file) was circulated at the meeting.  Mr.
   Adam  advised it  would  appear the  most  appropriate form  of  traffic
   control  of the  intersection  would be  a  traffic circle.    Council's
   January 12,  1995 procedure  gives full  control of  the process  to the
   property  owners, who would pay  for the improvements  through the local
   improvement process.      Mr.  Adam advised  he  had  arranged  for  the
   appropriate forms  to be expedited to the property owners.  If the forms
   are returned in sufficient  time the request could be  forwarded through
   the  Court  of  Revision in  either  February  or  June, 1996,  allowing
   construction shortly thereafter.

        Mr.  Neil McLagan  advised  that the  community had  requested stop
   signs  at the intersection on a number of occasions commencing three and
   a half  years ago.   Each  request was refused.   He  was advised  by an
   Engineering Department  representative to petition for  a traffic circle
   to  obtain  support.   The  petition  was  provided  to the  Engineering
   Department in August, 1994.

        Members  of  the Commission  felt  if  there was  still  sufficient
   support in the neighbourhood  for the traffic circle, the  request could
   be  'grandfathered' under  the old  policy, whereby  if the  support was
   present,  installation would be  at City cost.   As  no notification had

   been  undertaken  in  the  neighbourhood  prior  to  this  meeting,  the
   Commission  deferred further  consideration until  the November  9, 1995
   meeting.   It was  agreed the  Clerk, in  concert  with the  Engineering
   Department  would provide as much  notification for the  next meeting as
   possible.

        The following motion by Councillor Clarke was put and CARRIED.  The
   Commission

   RESOLVED

        THAT  the following  motions be  deferred to  the November  9, 1995
   Commission meeting:

        A.   THAT  a   temporary  traffic   signal  be  installed   at  the
             intersection of  43rd Avenue  and Collingwood Street,  at City
             cost,  to be  monitored  and reported  back  six months  after
             installation to determine if the traffic circle should be made
             permanent.

        B.   THAT  the installation costs, not to exceed $6,500, and annual
             maintenance  costs of $ 50.00,  be funded from  an increase in
             the Streets Capital Budget.

   Clause 3 Continued


        C.   THAT  adjacent  residents  agree to  provide  landscaping  and
             subsequent  upkeep  of  the   traffic  circle,  subject  to  a
             satisfactory  agreement with the  General Manager, Engineering
             Services. 



   4.   Other Business


   (a)  General Gordon School

        In a  memo dated  October  17, 1995  to the  Chair,  Mr. Ian  Adam,
   Assistant  City Engineer, Transportation,  advised the  school principal
   has been contacted re  student drop off arrangements.   Parents will  be
   encouraged  to use  the signed  Bayswater Street  frontage.   If signage
   changes are required, this will be done promptly through the established
   liaison process.



   (b)  Eton Street Bus Route

        Councillor Chiavario noted  this bus  now goes up  Boundary to  the
   Kootenay Loop and some members  of the community are concerned  with the
   steep hill encountered in order to get to the bus stops.

        Apparently  Ms. Joy McPhail,  MLA, has sent a  letter to Mrs. Betty
   Greenwell, area resident, indicating if the City requests the change, it
   will be accommodated.

        Mr.  Ian  Adam,   Assistant  City  Engineer,   Transportation,  was
   requested to  send a letter to Mrs. Greenwell with copies to Ms. McPhail
   and Councillor Kwan.



   (c)  Transit Zone Passes

        Councillor Chiavario noted  there is  much confusion  with the  new
   zone passes.

        The Commission  requested  B.C.  Transit be  invited  to  a  future
   meeting to discuss the issue.



   Clause 4 Continued


   (d)  Southwest Marine Drive Traffic

        Councillor Clarke advised she met  with approximately 98 members of
   the Southwest Marine Drive  Ratepayers Association who expressed concern
   with the lack of  notification to residents regarding the  major roadway
   improvements suggested by the Engineering Department in September.

        Councillor Clarke noted the  residents have concerns regarding many
   of the traffic issues noted in the report.

        Members  of the public are demanding a more consultative process in
   traffic issues, and a wider notification and distribution of reports.




               The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:30 p.m.


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